Jean Grey Appreciation III

**Home made ectoplasm** · 03-27-2011, 10:19 AM

Now onto her third thread of being the most imitated redhead in comics, there are two threads to reflect the schism in Jean Grey fandom - and the fact that not everybody considers Jean and The Phoenix Force are necessarily the same character.

Here is the thread to appreciate the Jean Grey who was part of the O5 (O6), The Only Woman Xavier was willing to be let seen in public, and the Jean Grey who was around recently who was getting on just fine with her natural mutant talent, without any cosmic birds following her around

art by Phil Noto

Continued from the other thread:
The Jean Grey/Phoenix Appreciation Thread II

If you prefer Jean with the Phoenix, there is also The Jean Grey/Phoenix Appreciation Thread III.1 (Phoenix version)

**Home made ectoplasm** · 03-27-2011, 10:20 AM

1. Jean Grey - 859 points (43 first place votes) (Up three spots from 2008)

Yes, I decided to give Jean Grey the victory.

I know, I know, you perhaps should not support someone who needed sixth-placed vote to get a victory despite FORTY-THREE first place votes.

However, Jean Grey's history is just so sad and fairly pathetic that I figured, hey, might as well give her SOMEthing to show for it all, right?

Let's take a look...

Her powers manifest themselves when her best friend is killed in front of her, so she has to experience her best friend's death while also, you know, realizing that she was literally experiencing her best friend's death!!

She then joined a team with four guys lusting after her. Heck, her PROFESSOR was lusting after her!

She ended up falling in love with perhaps the saddest of a sad bunch of guys.

She sacrificed her life to save her boyfriend and her friends.

A cosmic entity took her place and became one of the most hated creatures in existence.

When the cosmic entity was feared dead for awhile, the love of her life (who she was willing to die for), started playing the field pretty quickly.

When the cosmic entity ACTUALLY died, the love of her life replaces her with a CLONE OF HER!

When it turns out that she ISN'T dead, the same guys who lusted after her as teenagers rush to her side to lust after her some more.

Her ex-boyfriend lies about the fact that he's married with a kid now.

Despite now having the perfect opportunity to get away from this deadbeat, she decides to stand by him, even as she learns that he married an EVIL clone of her.

After she marries him, they spend their honeymoon raising the kid he had with the other woman for YEARS (although no time passes in their physical bodies).

Her husband gets a bomb implanted in his chest.

Her sister is murdered.

He then merges with one of the foulest villains in the universe.

When he is rescued, he then proceeds to CHEAT ON HER with one of her most hated enemies!!

While still dealing with this problem, she is murdered!!!

She is then resurrected by the cosmic force that passed itself off as her, only to be killed about six or seven MORE times!

While she is dead (but sure to eventually return), her ENTIRE family save her mother and a daughter from an alternate reality, is murdered. So she has nothing to even RETURN to upon her eventual resurrection.

That's a whole lot of messed up stuff, right? A lot harder to deal with than not being able to have unprotected sex with a slimy Creole boyfriend, I'd say.

So Jean Grey for the win!

Congrats...I guess!

**Bart Simpson** · 03-27-2011, 10:22 AM

so glad Jean got #1!! thanks for reminding us JAM.

**Filthy Mutie** · 03-27-2011, 10:24 AM

I love this thread! I'm excited to be a part of it!

**Home made ectoplasm** · 03-27-2011, 10:28 AM

Also, although I guess some folk here will not like the Phoenix, I don't want this thread to be used to start fights with the Phoenix thread. If it turns out this thread is being used to flame posters with different opinions I'm going to have to consider if it's worth keeping open.

Play nice and the two appreciation threads will continue.

**Seresecros** · 03-27-2011, 10:30 AM

I'm going to set up a Hope Summers (phoenix-version) Appreciation Thread

Jean is better without the Phoenix.

**Electric Version** · 03-27-2011, 10:30 AM

Jean as Marvel Girl has always been my favorite. I came in during the red and yellow X-Factor phase.

**The Thunderbird** · 03-27-2011, 10:42 AM

I thought the division was going to be between Jean Grey/Marvel Girl/Jean as Phoenix and the Phoenix Force in general with it's other hosts not this!

**Bart Simpson** · 03-27-2011, 11:07 AM

Jean's had many men who are interested in her. Aside from Cyclops who do you guys think be the most entertaining with? (notice I didn't say compatible)

Wolverine?

Angel?

Xavier?(ew)

Grifter?

Mastermind?

Other?

**nightw1ng** · 03-27-2011, 11:13 AM

Originally Posted by The Thunderbird

I thought the division was going to be between Jean Grey/Marvel Girl/Jean as Phoenix and the Phoenix Force in general with it's other hosts not this!

That's what I thought, too. A separate Jean only thread and a separate Phoenix Force thread for anything Phoenix (not related to Jean) makes more sense. Dividing Jean fans by which incarnation of her they like will just dilute the conversations. It's like creating separate threads for British vs. Asian Psylocke, amnesiac vs. full-memories Wolverine, bad ass White Queen vs. house-wife Emma Frost, or original vs. douche Cyclops. I'm guessing fans will just stick to one thread and let another die off.

**Brian M.** · 03-27-2011, 11:39 AM

LOVE THIS VERSION OF JEAN!

**Bart Simpson** · 03-27-2011, 11:47 AM

Originally Posted by nightw1ng

That's what I thought, too. A separate Jean only thread and a separate Phoenix Force thread for anything Phoenix (not related to Jean) makes more sense. Dividing Jean fans by which incarnation of her they like will just dilute the conversations. It's like creating separate threads for British vs. Asian Psylocke, amnesiac vs. full-memories Wolverine, bad ass White Queen vs. house-wife Emma Frost, or original vs. douche Cyclops. I'm guessing fans will just stick to one thread and let another die off.

Does this mean we can get a British Psylocke Appreciation thread and a Asian Psylocke Appreciation thread too? I know there are Psylocke fans that love the British version but hate the thong-ified version. And vice versa.

I also want to see a Ororro Munroe/Storm (punk powerless) and Orroro Munroe/RogueStorm (powered goddess) version.

**Bart Simpson** · 03-27-2011, 11:51 AM

I also want an Emma Frost/X-men appreciation thread and an Emma Frost/White Queen (hellfireclub version) appreciation thread because I like Emma as bad biatch white queen of hellfireclub rather than Cyclops' subordianate girlfriend.

**Brian M.** · 03-27-2011, 11:51 AM

Originally Posted by Bart Simpson

I also want an Emma Frost/X-men appreciation thread and an Emma Frost/White Queen (hellfireclub version) appreciation thread because I like Emma as bad biatch white queen of hellfireclub rather than Cyclops' subordianate girlfriend.

I would prefer no Emma Frost appreciation thread.

She does not need to be appreciated.

She can honored, but only after she dies.