Yeah, that Iceman got the short end of the stick is sad, he definitely prefers the longer end
Iceman jokes aside, I wonder about Namor's X-Men/Mutant actual status. I always tought that Namor (and then Namora) was a mutant pretty much as Spidey is (his DNA was different from his parents, one reason or another), not that he specifically had a X-Gene like the MU more common mutants. When/where was it established he (and I assume Namora too) has an X-Gene? Or were people just tap dancing with the loosy definition of mutant in the MU?
Here's the thing. Namor was created in 1939, before the word mutant became commonplace or used in the manner it is now in comics and SF. However, six issues into the original X-men back in 1964, Namor appeared in that book, and was named a mutant. Ostensibly, trading on Namor's greater popularity at the time, IOW, Namor was made a mutant to give the newly created X-Men some connection and recognition.
I'm not sure when the idea of an X-Gene first appeared, but I do know that in John Byrne's 1990s Namor series, his logo included the phrase, "Marvel's First and Mightiest Mutant" -- ostensibly trading on the X-Men's greater popularity.
Fictionally, Namor had the classic manifestation of mutant powers, his ankle wings, around puberty when under stress, as explained back in the 1950s, before there were even Marvel Mutants.
Hey it wasn't stated on panel then, just massively implicit by logic and common sense right? Since Marvel seems to abhor both logic and common sense we still have a chance to get him somewhere else he won't be threated as wallpaper, there is still hope :O
Okay, I admit, today I'm trolling too much, I will go back to having insomnia watching... something! I'm quire sure I will find something entertaining somewhere to pass time o.o
rheged, thanks for posting that page where namor manifest his mutant powers! i am always fascinated at how they turn on for different people.
Why after all these years is he still just a Prince?
Brian M seems to have become a stalker ... or he is disguising his love for Namor in that gruff manly way of those who are uncomfortable with their man crushes.
"...Doom's enemies have not the mettle to challenge him host to host, tooth to nail... As economic and military options fail them, they resort to simple rudeness."
However this was answered by a fan, IIRC, in a letter page in one of the Silver Age Subby books. His theory was that the since Neptune actually ruled and lived among them in their recorded history, that eternal Neptune would always be their King. Those of his descendants that followed and ruled Atlantis, would be ruling in his stead, hence, they took the title of Prince. This is also why I dislike Marvel's recent decision to label him King Namor. That and it doesn't sound as good, IMO. And reminds me of King Shark.
Of course, this doesn't take into account that Namor's predecessor, his grandfather, was called Emperor Tha-Korr or that his cousin was also called Prince Byrrah. Or the fact that Namor, when the full roll call of his titles is read, is also called King of the Seven Seas as well as Emperor of the Deep and occasionally called Emperor Namor.
My own theory is that all these titles are translations from Atlantean and aren't accurate anyway. Just as the Chinese allowed British titles like Marquis for their nobility, Namor allows the airbreathers to call him Prince because they can't manage to pronounce the proper title, or perhaps don't even have the color / motion / scent / etc. language component to do so.
Alternatively, the titles could be age or accomplishment related. You're a prince until this age, no matter what your governing status. You're a king at this age. You're an emperor at this age. There could be some other cultural aspect to Atlantean titles, so that they don't work like Western titles do. Here, you go by the highest title you have. But that doesn't mean HRH Prince Charles isn't still a Duke. Perhaps the titles are area related. So, in one place, Namor would use Prince, and in another, Emperor.
It's a Young Namor story called Wings on His Feet from the Atlas Era that was reprinted in some comics over the years. This scan is from the Marvel Masterworks Atlas Heroes Volume 3 (the all Namor one), which I can't recommend highly enough if you like Bill Everett's art.
I wish we'd get a bit more on Loa's manifestation of her powers. I still don't quite understand what the deal is with the tattoos.
namor was an ugly ass child