The Traitor Game Discussion Thread Part 5

[Anodyne]

With the new sign-up thread underway and the previous game essentially over--and I would greatly appreciate it if everyone who plans to do an epilogue goes ahead and reserves space, so I can post something that goes at the end--I thought I'd go ahead and give my appraisals of most everyone that played.

Anodyne--I have to say, you worried me a bit in the game. When you mentioned that horses might've been used to kill Cassius James, I thought for sure you'd given yourself away. And yet you hadn't, and made it to the end. So, bravo! Few Traitors make it as far as you did.

Also, your desire to get Gath's necklace off of him actually ended up making things easier for me, so thanks for that.

I realized I was taking a chance when I had Terrencios admit the horses were his. I wanted to show that his conscience was troubling him--which is also why he briefly voted for himself. And I wasn't sure you'd let me grab the necklace after the Clay Colossus failed, though I did edit my post to try to explain that.

I knew I should have voted for Adam in the last round (without telegraphing my intention), but I couldn't bring myself to make Terrencios betray the last Mason. I was torn between the desire to win the game and the desire to portray Terrencios as a reluctant Traitor, driven by fear for his sweetheart.

[The Purple Skull]

Dracula? I'll first ask if anyone played as him before. If so, I'mma play as him. Bram Stoker made him in the 1800s. I'll look into Capcom for stuff to preserve my combo.

I believe the last time the Marvel version of Dracula was played was by Indigo Al waaaay back in Traitor Game VIII, but don't quote me on that. As far as Capcom, might I suggest looking into the Darkstalkers series? That game's chock full of vampires, werewolves, monsters, and even a character designed like Frankenstein's monster.

[Joe Acro]

You assured me it wasn't like that at all.

I've toyed with that notion before. The first time time was to explain an inconsistency in the Human Bomb of Game IV with the Human Bomb of Game XIV. In the wiki, I labeled the latter as being from Game IVb, I believe, though I never explained what it was.

Later, I attempted the same thing with Provident, showcasing an alternate Provident in the Awards Show who experienced the same game, but never traversed realities afterward.

Has anyone else used alternate TGs? I know Chris established a few unwritten ones...

Thanks, Joe. I'm just sorry issues of health, work and time didn't allow me to be more active, especially in my Censor duties towards the end, and to interact more with the others.

Don't sweat it, OverMaster. Other things come first. You did fine as a Censor.

Speaking of, after utilizing that role again, I've finally realized that it needs more than one person to really be successful.

And I wasn't sure you'd let me grab the necklace after the Clay Colossus failed, though I did edit my post to try to explain that.

And again, I apologize for not making that clearer toward the start.

I knew I should have voted for Adam in the last round (without telegraphing my intention), but I couldn't bring myself to make him betray the last Mason. I was torn between the desire to win the game and the desire to portray Terrencios as a reluctant Traitor, driven by fear for his sweetheart.

That was the great thing about Terrencios. He really could've gone either way. I mean, winning, in theory, was going to give him power--with which he could help said sweetheart. But it'd also spread the corruption, which no one wants. In the end, I think you made the right choice, from a role-playing perspective anyway.

[Indigo Al]

For this new game, it seems that my trend of 1800s character may be too out of context. I'm a little anxious regarding breaking my combo.

Jekyll and Hyde
Frankenstein's creature
Doctor Moreau
Jack the Ripper

There goes my combo if I sign up for the next episode.

HWFM, I played as Marvel Dracula. In TG 5. However, you're most welcome to take up the cape! And don't worry about continuity with my version.

Btw, I really hope you participate in my upcoming Halloween special.

[He who fights monsters]

I believe the last time the Marvel version of Dracula was played was by Indigo Al waaaay back in Traitor Game VIII, but don't quote me on that. As far as Capcom, might I suggest looking into the Darkstalkers series? That game's chock full of vampires, werewolves, monsters, and even a character designed like Frankenstein's monster.

Oh yes. I used to play the series when I was younger. As for Indigo Al, my version will act more like the original source by Bram Stoker. I like being faithful to the original sources.

And I will play the special. *smirks*

[Jeremi]

Jeremi--You crafted one of the harder characters to work around, due to his sheer power. That's not a complaint. I liked working around him. And I appreciate that you were so willing to work around the story presented, as I know you had some other ideas you wanted to include.

Oh yeah no worries on this front.

I knew coming into the game that he'd be the strongest one there, could've probably wiped the floor with everyone had it come to it.

Either way I had a blast playing him and I actually won for a change so there's that as well.

[Kevin M.]

For the first time in a long time, I'm excited to be in a traitor game.

Ironhide and Zero..

Man, it's going to be a wild ride.

[Cthulhudrew]

I couldn't ever really tell if Adam's frustrations were yours or just his own, particularly when it came to me changing a few things up. But you won, so it can't be all bad.

Yeah, I was kind of afraid it might have come across that way. The irritation was just Adam's; I totally get the rationale for the clarifications of the roles (even if the one about losing my vote in a challenge screwed up my plans ). It just seemed like the sort of observation he'd make. Not personal, Joe.

On that subject, the change in the Noble role for the final round was not actually a change, but rather a reversion. I'd always intended the role to solely be about voting for two different people. However, I missed an earlier round wherein both votes had been used on the same person.

That makes sense, and again, no one else thought to clarify it before either. New roles, new things to learn.

[Jeremi]

For the first time in a long time, I'm excited to be in a traitor game.

Ironhide and Zero..

Man, it's going to be a wild ride.

I am really liking the characters showing up so far.

[Deadpooligan]

Deadpooligan--You're back! Or so you say. I didn't know you'd gone away. But still, you put in a great performance here. I know you're upset about not being counted among the winners, but you did so well playing the game, that you can't really consider yourself a loser. Green Jenna was an inspired idea, and I loved every minute of it.

You're just lucky it's your birthday or I'd continue to whine about it.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOE ACRO!

I'm glad you enjoyed it, Joe. This game was tons of fun and gave me the real creative boost I needed to get out of a (self-perceived) slump. There's a few things I want to go back and do (like my epilogue today), and embellish the prologue post a little to add some backstory oomph. I did put a good amount of work into it and not all of it shone through. But then, in true She-Hulk fashion, all the fun comes from stuff in the moment, not the past.

My only regret is that our collective performance may have failed you, for the most part. I mean, 41 pages? Come on everybody, we've done better with Games that actively inhibited our participation in the story. We've done more with Games that were last minute fill-ins or were even left unfinished!

Yes, we had some great portrayals this game and as always, I am proud to interact with a whole bunch of you. I guess I'm genuinely disappointed with the overall turnout of late, because the games have been on an almost steady decline since TG 21, and now I feel like it's reached a head.

Not to sound entitled or anything, but I know (better than most) the amount of work it takes to host a game, and it's almost unfair to Joe to have participation be so scarce. Maybe it's bias on the virtue that enjoyed the premise immensely, but it's my hope that things turn around for the Traitor Games as a whole for Traitor Game XL. I poured my heart and soul into a Game like Enrichment Activity, and the effort I have going towards War of the Exiles is substantially greater.

I've toyed with that notion before. The first time time was to explain an inconsistency in the Human Bomb of Game IV with the Human Bomb of Game XIV. In the wiki, I labeled the latter as being from Game IVb, I believe, though I never explained what it was.

Later, I attempted the same thing with Provident, showcasing an alternate Provident in the Awards Show who experienced the same game, but never traversed realities afterward.

Has anyone else used alternate TGs? I know Chris established a few unwritten ones...

You and I actually wrote a throwaway line about it in the Limbo Legion stuff somewhere, I plan on expanding the notion of alternate TGs in the Exiles Game.

For the first time in a long time, I'm excited to be in a traitor game.

Ironhide and Zero..

Man, it's going to be a wild ride.

Hey, good to see you back, Kevin! If you want to talk about exciting Traitor Games, the next one's all about the Exiles!

[Chris Lang]

I've toyed with that notion before. The first time time was to explain an inconsistency in the Human Bomb of Game IV with the Human Bomb of Game XIV. In the wiki, I labeled the latter as being from Game IVb, I believe, though I never explained what it was.

Later, I attempted the same thing with Provident, showcasing an alternate Provident in the Awards Show who experienced the same game, but never traversed realities afterward.

Has anyone else used alternate TGs? I know Chris established a few unwritten ones...

I have. An incident where we're made aware of an 'alternate Traitor Game' occurs during the 'time woogie' in the climax of Traitor Game: Challenge of the Limbo Legion. Nabiki is briefly sent to an alternate universe version of her homeworld. There, Furinkan High has been torn down and replaced with a shopping mall. She finds stores that are selling Traitor Game action figures.

It turns out Nabiki's alternate self from that universe became VERY rich, and is the one behind the Traitor Game action figures. The regular Nabiki never meets her, but we see this:

Nabiki saw a huge display in the front of a store. She saw action figures of Captain America, Thorpool, Kitty Pryde, Donna Troy, Dick Dastardly, Meowth and Team Rocket, Ukyo Kuonji, and a bunch of others she didn't recognize, all in boxes labelled 'Traitor Game XIV Action Figures!'

"Whose idea was THIS?" Nabiki asked.

"It was yours, remember?" Gosunkuki replied. "After you followed Ukyo to Darth Jubba's palace during that Traitor Game and took some of Jubba's money after he got killed, you became very rich and were able to buy the action figure rights from everyone."

"But that never happened!" Nabiki protested. "I never followed Ukyo. Are you telling me that I blew a big opportunity, and some alternate universe version of me got rich off of Jubba's fortune?"

Nabiki just walked away to the nearest ladies' room. There, in private, she let out her frustration. "Arrgggghhhhhh!!!!!"

From there, Nabiki returns to the climax of the game, and after that, to her own world where Furinkan High is still around and she doesn't have the action figure rights to the Traitor Game participants.

Ah, Traitor Game action figures. There'd be such a thing in OUR world if one of us were rich enough to buy the action figure rights to, oh, every character. :)

But as it is, some of the characters don't even have action figures at all in our world.

In addition, I've also established a few other 'off-camera' Traitor Games. One was a 'fake' game where Danielle Moonstar, Pantyhose Taro, and a few others were in the same game as the Nazi supervillains that the good guys defeat in Traitor Game X.

Another was a scenario set in the MC-222 universe, where it turned out Norman Osborn's return from the dead (after being impaled on his own jet glider) was at least partly thanks to Mephisto (who, in THIS universe, never even gets as far as setting up the 'One More Day' situation as a result of the ending, though it WAS in his plans). Franziska von Karma, who was the Inquisitor in that offscreen game, described it during Traitor Game: Deadly Reunion.

(Among the 'players' of that game we never saw were April O'Neil, Jubilee, Dr. Insano, the Marquis de Singe, Malachite of Suburban Knights, and Phantom Girl as an Agent. Goombella also was there as an information provider. Also, for a Stealth Pun and to make it sound even more like a real Traitor Game, I mentioned that Roger Wilco of Space Quest was an inactive player and did not see the error of his ways. No one caught the pun, sadly.).

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOE ACRO!

Indeed, happy birthday, Joe Acro!

I'm glad you enjoyed it, Joe. This game was tons of fun and gave me the real creative boost I needed to get out of a (self-perceived) slump. There's a few things I want to go back and do (like my epilogue today), and embellish the prologue post a little to add some backstory oomph. I did put a good amount of work into it and not all of it shone through. But then, in true She-Hulk fashion, all the fun comes from stuff in the moment, not the past.

Looking forward to She-Hulk's epilogue. She's waaay too good of a character to go without one. And personally, she was one of my particular favorite characters in the game.

My only regret is that our collective performance may have failed you, for the most part. I mean, 41 pages? Come on everybody, we've done better with Games that actively inhibited our participation in the story. We've done more with Games that were last minute fill-ins or were even left unfinished!

Yes, we had some great portrayals this game and as always, I am proud to interact with a whole bunch of you. I guess I'm genuinely disappointed with the overall turnout of late, because the games have been on an almost steady decline since TG 21, and now I feel like it's reached a head.

Well, Traitor Game 20 felt like the conclusion, of sorts. It wrapped up a LOT of ongoing stories. We had characters dying, characters changing, and generally had a satisfying payoff to stuff that had been going on for over a year previously. There was the final showdown with Vandal Savage, the resolution of the whole Soundwave/Omniwave thing, and a stinger that seemed to be a 'bookend'. Had Traitor Games 21, 23, 24, and 25 happened BEFORE this game, I would have said it was the big wrapup to the entire Traitor Game saga.

Indeed, I wrote my epilogues for the Ranmaverse characters and the MC-217 characters to be as satisfying as possible and give them a good means of figuratively riding off into the sunset just in case we never saw them again. But as it was, there were still those other games I mentioned that we'd already set up to do. And some of the games outside of them also turned out very good.

Aside from Traitor Games 24 and 25, my favorite Traitor Games of Year Three, Year Four and Five include the following...

Traitor Game Enrichment Activity: This is my FAVORITE of the Traitor Games I was not a participant in. The role-playing in that one was excellent, with a LOT of people on their A games. And yes, I was rooting for Chisame and thought the endgame worked out great from a story perspective. All in all, it was one of those games where everything comes together nicely to form one really incredible story.

Traitor Game: The Edge of Madness. That scenario was pretty clever, and this is another one where I feel almost all of us were on our A-Game roleplaying-wise. Lots of memorable moments and characterizations here.

Traitor Game: Deadly Reunion. One of the most fun Traitor Game scenarios, and another where most of us were on our A-Game. Way too many great portrayals to choose from. And of course, we had a new element involved in which there were 'teams' and different sets of Traitors. All in all, I think it worked out nicely.

But a lot of the other scenarios had their fun moments,too. Those are just my personal favorites. As for the Traitor Tales, my favorite still remains Traitor Tale 5: How Larfleeze Stole Christmas. That one, I feel, was very satisfying in how it turned out, with (again) excellent role-playing from just about everyone.

Not to sound entitled or anything, but I know (better than most) the amount of work it takes to host a game, and it's almost unfair to Joe to have participation be so scarce. Maybe it's bias on the virtue that enjoyed the premise immensely, but it's my hope that things turn around for the Traitor Games as a whole for Traitor Game XL. I poured my heart and soul into a Game like Enrichment Activity, and the effort I have going towards War of the Exiles is substantially greater.

Indeed. So do I. I'm hoping War of the Exiles turns out as good as Deadly Reunion. I myself want to be on my A-Game for that one, so I might be PMing for inspiration.

[Jeremi]

You're just lucky it's your birthday or I'd continue to whine about it.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOE ACRO!

A very happy birthday to Joe indeed!

My only regret is that our collective performance may have failed you, for the most part. I mean, 41 pages? Come on everybody, we've done better with Games that actively inhibited our participation in the story. We've done more with Games that were last minute fill-ins or were even left unfinished!

Yes, we had some great portrayals this game and as always, I am proud to interact with a whole bunch of you. I guess I'm genuinely disappointed with the overall turnout of late, because the games have been on an almost steady decline since TG 21, and now I feel like it's reached a head.

Not to sound entitled or anything, but I know (better than most) the amount of work it takes to host a game, and it's almost unfair to Joe to have participation be so scarce. Maybe it's bias on the virtue that enjoyed the premise immensely, but it's my hope that things turn around for the Traitor Games as a whole for Traitor Game XL. I poured my heart and soul into a Game like Enrichment Activity, and the effort I have going towards War of the Exiles is substantially greater.

I was going to take out a chart and everything, but I think Chris put it rather well.

But a lot of the other scenarios had their fun moments,too. Those are just my personal favorites. As for the Traitor Tales, my favorite still remains Traitor Tale 5: How Larfleeze Stole Christmas. That one, I feel, was very satisfying in how it turned out, with (again) excellent role-playing from just about everyone.

Thank you for that! I did have a blast hosting that one.

[Anodyne]

That was the great thing about Terrencios. He really could've gone either way. I mean, winning, in theory, was going to give him power--with which he could help said sweetheart. But it'd also spread the corruption, which no one wants. In the end, I think you made the right choice, from a role-playing perspective anyway.

Thanks for the feedback, Joe ... and HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

[Schornforce]

Happy birthday, Joe Acre! :)

[OverMaster]

Happy Birthday, Joe!

As for the recent games, I have noticed overall participation in these boards has diminished since the redesign. May I mention it annoys me now we can use only three images per post instead of the old four, by the way?

I've been in a personal downward TG slum since Game 30 and I apologize over that, although I still like how the Amazon Quartet, Mami, Bishop, Shenhua and ESPECIALLY Captain Hero turned out.