Grant Morrisson has some more thoughts on Wonder Woman

**AaronJ** · 02-18-2011, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by carabas

No. More like summer next year. He's got a rather full plate at the moment.

Exactly. And we STILL don't know anything about Multiversity. :(

**Groovie Mann** · 02-18-2011, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by AaronJ

Exactly. And we STILL don't know anything about Multiversity. :(

Seriously, this is what I'm waiting for. I could care less about most anything else happening at DC.

**AaronJ** · 02-18-2011, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by Groovie Mann

Seriously, this is what I'm waiting for. I could care less about most anything else happening at DC.

I can't agree with the second part of your statement (Flashpoint, for instance), but man do I want to hear something about Multiversity! I mean, come on Grant!

At least give us some sense of when it's going to happen.

**Groovie Mann** · 02-18-2011, 07:48 PM

Originally Posted by AaronJ

I can't agree with the second part of your statement (Flashpoint, for instance), but man do I want to hear something about Multiversity! I mean, come on Grant!

At least give us some sense of when it's going to happen.

I don't like the Flash and I haven't been truly happy with Johns since Sinestro Corps War, but I might harboring anger towards killing Kendra/Hawkgirl in Blackest Night. To be honest with you, I'm more leaning towards Fear Itself simply because Cyclops is my fav X-Men and I love that teaser with him dressed as Magneto.

Edit: Though DC is publishing a few books really I like. Batgirl, Zatanna, Fables and Batman Inc.

**AaronJ** · 02-18-2011, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by Groovie Mann

I don't like the Flash and I haven't been truly happy with Johns since Sinestro Corps War, but I might harboring anger towards killing Kendra/Hawkgirl in Blackest Night. To be honest with you, I'm more leaning towards Fear Itself simply because Cyclops is my fav X-Men and I love that teaser with him dressed as Magneto.

Edit: Though DC is publishing a few books really I like. Batgirl, Zatanna, Fables and Batman Inc.

Gotcha. I don't read Marvel, really. But I understand the idea.

**Groovie Mann** · 02-18-2011, 08:05 PM

Originally Posted by AaronJ

Gotcha. I don't read Marvel, really. But I understand the idea.

I normally dislike Marvel but lately I've been kinda happy. I've been following X-Factor and thats always good. The new X-Men book I only bought because I wanted to see if the vampire thing would turn out as silly as it sounded and I loved it. Plus Avengers Academy trade was the best thing in my new comic package. Now if they'd get me a new Runaways series...

**AaronJ** · 02-18-2011, 08:09 PM

Originally Posted by Groovie Mann

I normally dislike Marvel but lately I've been kinda happy. I've been following X-Factor and thats always good. The new X-Men book I only bought because I wanted to see if the vampire thing would turn out as silly as it sounded and I loved it. Plus Avengers Academy trade was the best thing in my new comic package. Now if they'd get me a new Runaways series...

I've only got old Marvel stuff. I can't get into anything going on now. Though I will get the Scarlet tpb when it comes out.

**Groovie Mann** · 02-18-2011, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by AaronJ

I've only got old Marvel stuff. I can't get into anything going on now. Though I will get the Scarlet tpb when it comes out.

Old Marvel stuff is the best. I collect the Essentials for X-Men, Avengers and Powerman/Iron Fist. Plus this month I'm getting the Kirby Capt. America Omnibus. I love Kirby.

**BrettJett** · 03-21-2012, 06:37 PM

BrettJett--Wonder Woman's #1 Loverboy & Expert--says:
In order to understand the sexual-erotic aspects of the WW comics,
First, you have to consider the context from which William Marston was writing the comics…and his inexperience with writing them, as well as the fact that he was the only one writing it at the time...altho sometimes he’d have the help of his family to come up with story plots.

The “strange sexuality” only seemed strange in the male context of them used to seeing comics in a masculine way, with masculine antics, and expecting violence & behavior that is described as dominant. William Marston was injecting some submission type elements, to balance out the over-dominance & violence. William Marston was trying to do all this as an amateur comics writer.

A combo of the above factors made it seem so strange. As for the reason why most people shy away from this sexual element is becuz of society's norms...convention. this feeling of sexual eroticism that such bondage imagery gives you is NATURAL. Its not a perversion of the mind. Society isn't SICK becuz it thinks of sexual fetish whenever dealing with dominance-submission...society is SICK becuz it is VIOLENT & cruel! The thoughts of sexual fetish can be explained psychologically....

Humans were biologically programmed to do only 2 things....survive & replicate. Therefore, the universal principle dominance-submission will FIRST evoke sexual thoughts (replication wiring) in you, even though dominance-submission has other implications as well as sexual ones.

Its not that he JUST believed that women were better than men, but that the NATURAL state of women was built to be the most Loving…and its this Love that the world should change to.

Essentially, Marston was thinking in line with a woman…which explains a lot of his productions.

**BrettJett** · 03-25-2012, 09:12 PM

What women look for in a man is very simple. They need to see your Power, and Your Vulnerability. They need to see your Strength, and your Love. (Mars & Venus...same with men...becuz who wants a woman who's so fcking wussy, she won't stand up for her man?!!)

**tabo61** · 03-25-2012, 10:48 PM

He may have to write a graphic novel if wanted to write Wonder Woman. This new 52 version doesn't sound like the vision he has in mind too much.

**Zagreus** · 03-27-2012, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by BrettJett

What women look for in a man is very simple. They need to see your Power, and Your Vulnerability. They need to see your Strength, and your Love. (Mars & Venus...same with men...becuz who wants a woman who's so fcking wussy, she won't stand up for her man?!!)

Dude, are you trying to recruit for speed seduction seminars or what? It's ...weird pitching this stuff on a comic book website. They have websites and meetup groups for PUAs, as I'm sure you're aware.

**psyshot** · 04-26-2012, 10:24 AM

Don't know if it was already mentioned, but here is another talk of Wonder Woman by Morrison:

“William Moulton Marston, the guy who created Wonder Woman, was a noted psychiatrist. He’s the guy who invented the polygraph, the lie detector. He was one of those bohemian free-love guys; he and his wife, Elizabeth, shared a lover, Olive, who was the physical model for Wonder Woman. What he and Elizabeth did was to consider an Amazonian society of women that had been cut off from men for 3,000 years. That developed along the lines of Marston’s most fevered fantasies into a lesbian utopia. Although they’re supposedly a peace-loving culture, all these supergirls’ pursuits seem to revolve around fighting one another, and this mad, ritualistic stuff where girls dress as stags and get chased and tied up and eaten symbolically on a banquet table. The whole thing was lush with bondage and slavery. Wonder Woman was constantly being tied up or shackled—and it was hugely successful. When Marston died in 1947, they got rid of the pervy elements, and instantly sales plummeted. Wonder Woman should be the most sexually attractive, intelligent, potent woman you can imagine. Instead she became this weird cross between the Virgin Mary and Mary Tyler Moore that didn’t even appeal to girls.”

I can't wait for his take on her universe!