Ultimate is an alternate universe inspired by 616. That's it. Do people not know that when Hugh Jackman pops his claws on screen that hes wolverine just b/c he's not in a comic?
At this point it seems like all we're REALLY doing here is splitting hairs. You either like Ultimate or you don't. It's a different/modern interpretation of a classic comics line. The universe has one hiccup and all people are doing is running around like chickens without heads. I just dont get it. 616 is fine, im a fan, but they dont take risks. Nothing changes. Human torch will be back in 2 years just like cap was. There will be some huge retcon that resets the status quo like spiderman these past few years ((and i really dug the direction he was going before it was all "poofMEPHISTOpoof")).
My advice to people about ultimate: Just give it time or give up on it. I say give it time b/c its still a young universe with potential. But the choice is yours. It gets frustrating reading all this bashing.