Even when Diamond's info is on a different type of sales than those the retailer is talking about?
I'm sorry, but at this point I'm really not sure if you're just kidding, or you simply don't have a clue and think you're funny but actually are not.
It's irrelevant what one store is saying when the overall sales have increased as more orders have been made. Samething with the Newsarama article, they had one with October being the one where "less sales" and yet the sales took a jump.
Anyway, we should be discussing the UU digital releases.
I wonder if the digital version will have the "FREE DIGITAL COPY" text one it
Flashpoint was followed by the relaunch. :p Blackest Night was criticially acclaimed and praised by the fans, you don't see the same level of fan love for Fear Itself at all whatsoever.
Either way, they are going to look for their favorite character on the cover before they look at the price. When they see "$3.99," they might be a little bummed at the price, but that doesn't mean they're going to buy a book about a character that they don't know/like just because it will save them a buck.
Yes, Fear Itself wasn't as well received as some other books. But it was a better seller until the final issue of Flashpoint, which got a boost for obvious reasons. And even still, Flashpoint wasn't well received either. So instead of comparing that to Flashpoint, you chose a story from last year, when that's not exactly a proper comparison.
You're also ignoring the fact that Marvel does have critically acclaimed books. As Chaos_Alfa pointed out, Spider-Island has been extremely well liked. Uncanny X-Force and FF have been ongoing with similar enthusiasm from fans, and Wolverine and the X-Men started off with a bang. And claiming that DC's sales are the reason that it and Incredible Hulk got off to a good start is completely biased as well.
I'm not denying that DC has done a good thing for the industry, because I really think they have. But everyone needs to have some perspective. All this bias towards either company is way over the top.
Based on comixology's best sellers of the week, it looks like Ultimate books are performing pretty well digitally.
Ultimates takes the #10 spot, with X-Men at #16 and last week's Spider-man at #19.
Just a peek at some of the books that all three Ultimate titles are outselling on comixology:
Now, this data is obviously not perfect. There are no numbers whatsoever, so it's difficult to compare against books that are from before this week. However, when you consider the Ultimate books are $3.99, yet still selling as well (or better) than many other titles, it's hard not to call them a success. Even if the digital market is still relatively small, it has become a major part of Marvel and DC's strategy, so strong performance is obviously important.
Just a question...why is everyone impressed with these sales and calling it good? I mean...Kirkman did those numbers and everyone was calling it the end, that it was selling so low that the line will get cancelled. Well....if this is doing Kirkman's numbers....than either Kirkman's sales were fine....or this line is doing bad. You can't call Kirkman's numbers bad and these good when they are exactly the same number.
It's like a gaming war between fanboys. Oh the 3DS is selling BETTER than the original DS, flop. Oh the Vita sold less than half of the 3DS, success. Sorry, logic not compute.
Bring back Ultimate Dazzler and Longshot.
The Kirkman sales we're lower than the norm back then, but nowdays the top 50 range is all Ultimate Comics is doing really ever since post-Ultimatum.
But I find it odd that Ultimate really isn't selling much more than it was before Ultimatum or Death of Spider-Man. It got temporary boosts, but that's about it. I'm starting to think that Marvel really doesn't consider Ultimate as important as it once was. It seems to be more focused on what 616 is capable of and rightfully so. 616 is outselling Ultimate both commercially and critically.
As for the sales figures, I don't like to argue with numbers because they speak for themselves. But if Marvel is content with the current sales figures with Ultimate, then there's really nothing left for us to say. So long as it turns a profit, they'll continue. But if they drop, they'll throw in another gimmick. That's pretty much what Ultimate has done since Ultimatum. Until it stops having that effect, it will continue for better or for worse.
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Yeah, I would have expected about 80K still since the first arc isn't even over. As far as relaunches go, I think these numbers are low. I think numbers would be higher if MAINLINE DC didn't reboot itself. Alt universe vs the "real" universe....yeah....it happens.
But the line that Marvel cancels stuff flat out (as in not renaming or renumbering but flat out GONE) is under 25K. As long as we don't dip below that, the line will stay.
I say if we hit around 30K standard we'll get a few revivals. And if it stays there, maybe they'll reboot the whole line, like day one of the line with all 100% versions of Wolverine, Storm, Cyclops, Peter, etc and it would be earth 1611 or whatever. Then after that....good luck people.
I doubt we'll ever get a standard above 55K regularly. Loeb pulled a Vince Russo on WCW. That reputation is never going away.
Bring back Ultimate Dazzler and Longshot.
Marvel puts out roughly 50 ongoing titles. Ultimate Spider-man was #9 among those in sales for November; UXM and Ultimates were #18 and 19 respectively. Not only that, but they are still the most successful alternate universe titles on the market. Kick Ass 2 is the only book that doesn't take place in mainstream Marvel or DC that sells better than the Ultimate ongoings. Regardless of the fact that they are no longer of the same prominence that they once were, they are still, by definition, successful.But the line that Marvel cancels stuff flat out (as in not renaming or renumbering but flat out GONE) is under 25K. As long as we don't dip below that, the line will stay.