I'm sorry, I don't have moderator abilities or else I would have pulled posts out of other topics and used them to create this thread, but let this be known as the final thread on the topic of Clor.
Many people believe that Tony, Reed and Pym, based on what I assume is the terminology of the word "clone" used in the pages of Civil War, make Clor a rapidly aged God clone who was gutted and filled with robotic parts.
I own the Civil War hardback, which comes with the scripts and commentary from Millar and Brevoort. I finally went back to them and have much more insight onto the matter.
Now, this already debunks one theory I heard that the artist took liberty and messed up. It also supports the theory that they cloned skin and muscles from Thor's hair to place outside of the cyborg skeleton. That makes a whole lot more sense then them gutting a clone, especially considering that the imagery shows tubes and what-not leading from Thor's "organs".Originally Posted by Mark Millar, Issue 7 P17
Another nice quip from Tom Brevoort:
Brevoort also goes on to call Clor a "duplicate" in much of the remainder of the commentary. However, after reading it again, even the notes are quite ambiguous about this situation. You need to read between the lines though. When Brevoort starts talking about how all the hammer Clor uses is just technology that produces the same stuff Thor does, but isn't the same, is another good giveaway that they didn't directly clone a God. Also, you need to realize that Clor had a shutdown code, and you have to wonder how, and when, that was put in place if they directly cloned Thor. A direct Thor clone would be too powerful to sedate in order to put in mechanical parts. It makes a load more sense that they cloned parts of Thor from the DNA Tony had in order to produce a cyborg as realistic as Thor as possible. At this point, everyone thought Thor was dead and to have Thor on your side, even after the initial war, would have been a great move on that team's side. What human in the MU wouldn't route for Thor?Make no mistake -- (this is) meant to be a creepy sequence, in that this is where the readers become aware of exactly what it is that Tony and Reed and Hank have done at this point. But the ear-probe and the blood are all details that Steve threw into the sequence -- presumably to make it even more creepy and unsetttling -- so don't read too much into them.
Now, I will admit that there is a lot of grey area, especially in the dialog. Reed does say that he helped create a new super-human and they do use the word clone A LOT, but the evidence against Clor being a direct clone that was gutted outweighs the evidence that they did just that. My understanding is that as the story progressed, and the plans for Clor were laid down the more defined this "clone" became. For that reason, I don't think you can't take what's in the script from issue 3 with the same weight as issue 7 (in which Millar goes from calling it a clone to a cyborg), because by issue 7 they had a better, more fleshed out understanding of what this Thor "clone" actually was. I can see how it can be misconstrued though.
I know you guys have a lot to say on this matter, but hopefully this clears some things up. If you hate Tony Stark because he "killed a living creature", like Tom said, I think you're reading way too far into this.