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    The thing with the 'endless triangle/flirt' is that it worked greatly as a never ending thing for when comics were more like cartoons, but not so well once comics became a pseudo-sci-fi-with-continuity thing (it is something in between those two, and if you ask me not deciding if it goes full continuity or full cartoon-continuitless style is the cause of the decline of the American CB industry, but I digress).

    When it is 'cartoon' nothing that isn't inherent to the episode's/issues plot requires closure, it is part of the basic premise of the characters and the show/book. Stories start in one issue and normally end there or in the next one. And when it is over, it is over, it is 'invisible reset' time and next issue it starts with the same basic premise + episodic plot. It is diferent when trying to have anything resembling a continuity. Romances become a plot, unlike powers and other things inherent to the character's own being, and like all other plots it begs for closure. It is like having 25+ books tryinig to discover the identity of the Red Hulk. Sure, fun at start for many, but eventually it loses its charm even to those that enjoyed the origina mystery, it starts becoming obvious who he is, it starts mixing too much with other ongoing plots, etc., and then it is no longer cool, it is no longer no one's interest.

    So for Superman, sure, you could reset it now, make a big huge buzz about it, but in the long run it would enventually turn into fans asking for some sort of closure to it, like they expect any other plot to have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hamdinger View Post
    Hey maybe Flashpoint will retcon the marriage and a whole other bunch of things in a hamfisted and pointless manner. It is a Geoff Johns event so it wouldn't be first time.
    Word is Lois will come back to him after a few love triangle issues

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    Huh. Brevoort and Morrison seem to be pretty much on the same page.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mistergoodman View Post
    Huh. Brevoort and Morrison seem to be pretty much on the same page.
    I know, as I was reading the answers I gave a quick shake of the head they were so similar. It was eerie. Marriage, dead Kents, social crusader, etc. Weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whirlwind Dinamo View Post
    Word is Lois will come back to him after a few love triangle issues
    Prey tell, what is your source?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philosophía View Post
    On some level, Superman needs a sense of isolation, of loneliness, of loss. In my world, the Kents would both be dead as well.
    This was the worst idea in the history of comics

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whirlwind Dinamo View Post
    This was the worst idea in the history of comics
    Allow me to posit the notion that you may be exaggerating ever so slightly"

    Also, congrats on the thread necro.
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    I do agree with the Clark Kent looking like superman deal. Its odd never thought of Clark or supes as the mask. Alsways thought they were two different sides to the same person. Superman can do the things that Clark Kent cant like stop zod or save the world yet Kent can use the paper to expose guys like luthor and fight for the little guy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whirlwind Dinamo View Post
    This was the worst idea in the history of comics
    it was also the idea that Siegel and Shuster had. What exactly are you saying here?

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    I don't get this flapdoodle about isolating Superman. To me it seems like this rudimentary dimestore characterization that says Superman is an alien therefore he must be alienated. And for a tired love triangel(aka dynamic) . Not buying it, spouses can serve an impotant function letting us into the characters head like watson for sherlock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whirlwind Dinamo View Post
    This was the worst idea in the history of comics
    It was like that all the way through until Crisis.
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    I agree with pretty much everything Tom said and I applaud the way he spoke his mind in a clear, no-BS manner. I'd love to see him write Action Comics after Morrison's run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by carabas View Post
    Heh. Tom Brevoort gets Superman about as well as Quention Tarantino does.
    Nothing he said was that controversial, Tom went back to the root of the character in his views. Unless you think Siegel and Shuster got Superman wrong. Heh.

    I'm personally glad we have an unmarried, Kents deceased, pro-social justice Superman. It's a hell of a lot better than what came before, respecting the past but also moving toward the future. None of this "Lois and Clark" BS that's long stagnated the character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RDMacQ View Post
    Actually, I think that was Axel Alonso who oversaw that.

    As for Brevoort's thought's on Superman's marriage and the Kent's, it's no surprise. He seems to be all about turning back the clock to the time when HE was growing up, and that status quo. Because- heaven forbid- there should actually be deviation from that and people actually have their OWN status quo to bond with instead of someone else's.
    That's a strawman. He doesn't want to turn the character back, he has his views on the character based on the character as he was originally conceived. That doesn't translate to no new characters or ideas. It's about working with a familiar base to move forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mia View Post
    To me Brevoort sounds like your typical bitter middle aged man, who can't get over the fact that his wife left him and took him to the cleaners.
    ...Really? You're going to bring the man's personal life into this to devalue his argument? That's real classy.

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