Big Time and the fresh start -- the new sales results and predictions mega-thread

[Schmed]

I won't be picking up "Big Time"; purely and simply because it holds little to no interest for me.

How do you know that! Magic 8 ball??

[Karl Cook]

How do you know that! Magic 8 ball??

Yes.
Now I'm asking it whether or not I should let you live...

[Schmed]

Yes.
Now I'm asking it whether or not I should let you live...

All signs point to yes....for your own sake!

[Karl Cook]

All signs point to yes....for your own sake!

To be fair, my Magic 8 Ball is a cheap Taiwanese knock-off so I can't understand a damned thing it says anyway.

[Schmed]

To be fair, my Magic 8 Ball is a cheap Taiwanese knock-off so I can't understand a damned thing it says anyway.

All sign proint to happy fun toilet? (gotta love engrish)

[Hawkeyeps]

I really like Dan Slott and from looks of it more of recognition that Spidey is actually an Avenger but Humberto Ramos as the artist is a deal breaker for me.

I've been buying Spidey since the "Road to Civil War" and just dropped the book at the end of OMIT, the book has been pretty weak in my opinion and when I saw the art in 642 (Azaceta&Martin) I was out, to me the art was lazy and horrible (photoshoped backgrounds and stick figures).

I really like Spidey and have faith that Dan Slott will take the book in a good direction I just wish they would put a good artist on it.

I really don't like the "cartoony" style, it really kills the book for me, McGuiness is ok but not too much beyond that.

[Duy]

Well -- maybe there was a little reason to be snide.

And I'm not actually claiming you didn't understand something -- just saying I think you're concentrating on one side of an argument as opposed to all sides of an argument. And you've admitted you had to infer something from the original post to even get to that point.

But no one was arguing for the other side. Even I said I picked up the book after OMD, and that the position on the charts is relatively the same, so there probably wasn't a sales boost (depending on how much you want to weight the thrice monthly factor, which, since there's been no precedent, I have no idea).

No, really wasn't a reason to be snide because your supposition that he is looking at one side of the argument is incorrect. He asked about a sales drop. Arguing wheres the evidence of the opposite is not a valid response since that wasn't a part of the conversation.
I'd add besides his inference, many people here on the boards have stated they dropped ASM due to OMD and/or BND. I don't recall many stating the opposite (besides myself - though not because of either). But one response has nothing to do with the other.

Hangmanjury's post was in response to a guy who claimed there was one significant reason sales weren't higher.

As such, it's appropriate to ask for evidence on the matter.

If someone makes a comment about people who picked up the book up due to the changes that came about in OMD, then it's appropriate to ask for cold, hard facts.

I actually haven't heard anyone say that the sales went up after BND (adjusted for industry changes -- I'm just going to stop saying that now), so I haven't seen the need to ask for proof for it. That's why when Jim said people have been doing it, I asked him who.

I've been buying Spidey since the "Road to Civil War" and just dropped the book at the end of OMIT, the book has been pretty weak in my opinion and when I saw the art in 642 (Azaceta&Martin) I was out, to me the art was lazy and horrible (photoshoped backgrounds and stick figures).

I'm not much of a Humberto Ramos fan, and I'll admit, the first time I saw Marcos Martin, I wasn't very impressed, until he showed me a whopper of a layout.

Layouts are really freaking difficult to put together. I think they're the hardest part about making comics, striking a balance between intensity and clarity, and on that note, I'd just like to say that Marcos really isn't "lazy" by any stretch of the imagination. But I respect not liking his actual style. It is a bit of an acquired taste.

Hawkeye rules!

[Kirayoshi]

I would like the next significant other - be it Carlie or otherwise - to really be attempted to be at least as significant as the Black Cat, even if not Gwen or MJ. I just want the attempt made, before she becomes the next Debra Whitman.

I hope so too. Let Carlie develop, gain a more multi-dimensional back story, at least make the effort to allow her to escape the(admittedly long) shadow of MJ. She seems likable, but so far I'm not getting that "She's the One" vibe from her. I hope that Dan Slott at least makes the effort. And that Joe Quesada allows him to.

The big test will be if Peter ever feels comfortable enough to tell her that he's Spider-Man. If he is, and she takes it well, then all's good. If she doesn't, just write her off quickly without any long-term angst, huh?

[Duy]

I hope so too. Let Carlie develop, gain a more multi-dimensional back story, at least make the effort to allow her to escape the(admittedly long) shadow of MJ. She seems likable, but so far I'm not getting that "She's the One" vibe from her. I hope that Dan Slott at least makes the effort. And that Joe Quesada allows him to.

The big test will be if Peter ever feels comfortable enough to tell her that he's Spider-Man. If he is, and she takes it well, then all's good. If she doesn't, just write her off quickly without any long-term angst, huh?

I don't think there's any need to make her "The One." Black Cat was never "The One."

[Aziz Abbasi]

The dating issue showed a galagtic rise in sales, at least it was there for that issue only
I guess Big Time first part only will sell with a little near 100k and then prices will vary from 60k-80k, then a major fall back to 56k

[Duy]

The dating issue showed a glagtic rise in sales, at least it was there for that issue only

Obama was in that issue. It shouldn't count.

[Jim Thompson]

The dating issue showed a glagtic rise in sales, at least it was there for that issue only

Might have had more to do with President Obama being on the cover as the newly elected president than Spider-Man.

[Aziz Abbasi]

Obama was in that issue. It shouldn't count.

Might have had more to do with President Obama being on the cover as the newly elected president than Spider-Man.

Is that all?
I guess the same gimmick won't work a second time

[Jim Thompson]

Is that all?
I guess the same gimmick won't work a second time

I see that issue as more a target of opportunity than a gimmick. There will only be one time the first black president takes office, and Marvel figured out a way to capitalize on that.

[Blade X]

Aside from the inevitable bump in sales (which could be either small or large depending on the rarity of the variant covers) due to the variant covers, I predict sales of ASM to continue to fall due to normal sales attrition.