barbatos the hunter?
(sorry for my english)
i'm pretty someone must have pointed it out already, since there are a lot of people who have done research on such subjects already, but i couldn't find it with the research engine.
i was looking for informations about barbatos, when i found out he was actually a real deamon, coming from a seventeen century book, and later reused by crowley.
it turns out that barbatos is a duke (i don't know what it means, in terms of deamonology, but wasn't an episode of batman and robin titled something like "the thin white duke of death") surrounded by four companions (just like hurt in the black glove) and, guess what, he is known as the hunter!!
so i guess all the clues about orion, although they could be linked to orion himself (everything is connected in the morrissonverse anyway) could also lead to barbatos (in mythology orion is the hunter: i know everyone knows that, but i just felt like saying it)
had anyone already commented on this? what do you think of it? (and please, delete this message if it was adressed already,with my excuses, i really couldn't find it)
edit: oh: hereis a link http://www.monstropedia.org/index.php?title=Barbatos
he also knows all things past and future.
I noticed the connection with The Goetia too a few days ago. Seems just like the kind of stuff a practicing magician like Morrison would read about and use in his comics. It's worth noting that Barbatos has nothing to do with actual bats; I guess Morrison just used the name because it's BarBATos.
It has been mentioned and discussed, although not in that much depth or too often. The four kings that accompany him to create a part of five demons have been likened, by myself, to the five fingers of the Black Glove, and many bloggers and fans have made some not of the connections between the real historical demonolgoical figure of Barbatos and the version developing in the current Batman tale.
Originally Posted by invisiblefive
He actually used it because Peter Milligan had used the same demon in Dark Knight Dark City, and all of this run as drawn on previously established Batman history, like the Miagani from the Cult, Waynes through history featured in stories from Shadow of the Bat and even obscure ones like Swamp Thing, and many, many other examples.
Originally Posted by Eumenides
That being said, yeah, Milligan probably used Barbathos (another name for Barbatos) because "bat" was in the name.
Barbatos means "Bearded One" actually.
Last edited by RonnieThunderbolts; 10-28-2010 at 06:17 PM.
Also, "The Thin White Duke" refers to David Bowie. Bowie is known for changing both his musical and fashion styles when the whim hits him. After his glam period, he adopted the persona of "The Thin White Duke", a sharply dressed 'soul' singer. Morrison's take on the Joker is that he periodically reinvents himself as well, from goofy prankster to murderous freak to cosmic trickster, etc. "The Thin White Duke of Death" is the Joker's current incarnation.