Wrestling: Postmania VII: ART THOU BORED?!

**SUPERECWFAN1** · 10-21-2010, 08:11 PM

Nice video of the changes to TNA.

Jan. 4th 2010 - Jeff Hardy made his return to TNA according to Bischoff.....

Beer Money said they knew the moment Flair walked out the limo , he knew it was destined they would team with him. They knew that Fortune would come there and form.

Bischoff claims hours and days passed....and Bischoff says they knew where the problems was. And its Dixie...

James Storm : "Watch the episodes...if ya saw from day 1...we were the 1st ones Flair met when he got outta the limo. It was from day 1."

**KiFF86** · 10-21-2010, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by master of read

you can tell it was in a bad place. that's gonna need stitches.

Add we see why the E bans head shots.

**KiFF86** · 10-21-2010, 08:20 PM

I think Jarrett just admitted he can't explain this story.

**SUPERECWFAN1** · 10-21-2010, 08:23 PM

Bischoff runs down how Jeff Jarrett , Hogan and him came togethor finally. How they all agreed they hated Dixie. So it came down.

Part 1 : Convince Abyss his destiny laid in Hogan. Harness his power and rage ...and turn him loose.

Abyss lays it out. It was a beautiful plan. Morgan lays out that Abyss is more than a Frankenstein monster. He had brains and managed to out wit Dixie Carter !

Abyss claims he's a monster....but he's a monster with a brain. And he knows how to think. So the whole Hall of Fame ring deal was a swerve and Abyss calls people a joke for believing it.

Part 2: Jeff Jarrett , Jeff was looking for revenge against Dixie. And Hulk & Bisch was smart enough to pull it off.

Jarrett claims he can't really detail how to build a car or how it all worked. But the results speak for themselves.

Part 3: Jeff Hardy : Laying the ground work. Hardy claims he was tired of helping everyone and not himself. So now its his turn. He's the coolest fuckin thing going and its his turn for himself !

Part 4: Convince Flair and Hogan to drop their fued. To bring Fortune to their side. The goal was to unleash hell on TNA and form the most powerful faction ever.

Morgan claims that Flair recruited 6 studs for this ...to accomplish this. (This is likely explaining that Bischoff recruited FORTUNE that June/July after they got Morgan and others in)

**SUPERECWFAN1** · 10-21-2010, 08:32 PM

Ok now Bischoff is saying that they wanted Fortune in the group back in August right when Dixie made that claim that EV2 was as big. So now they recruited them after this.

Bischoff claims Sting couldn't be trusted. That he would expose the plan. We see that Sting had tried to warn Dixie she was being conned. Bischoff and Hulk even tried to have her suspend or fire Sting as we saw.

Yep...its clear they are saying they managed to get Flair to come in during that comparison with EV2 to what they did. Flair was pissed...and he was on board with Hogan/Bischoff due to this.

Morgan , Kaz and Williams sell that Dixie fucked up.

Beer Money claims Flair knew who he wanted and who he wanted to be with to make money. To run things.

"This was building for months and months. You could see the pieces coming togethor. It was too late for Dixie." Bobby Roode.

**SUPERECWFAN1** · 10-21-2010, 08:42 PM

Morgan says that if we saw , Hardy never was around much at the end when Rob took beatdowns from Abyss. So he planned it well.

"Where was Rob when I started out . I wasn't in his league was I. Now I am ? Fuck RVD , Fuck TNA..." Jeff Hardy.

**SUPERECWFAN1** · 10-21-2010, 08:48 PM

Bischoff discusses stopping the match at No Surrender. He did it not for Kurt , because he felt Kurt could win !

"Kurt's a machine...a warrior...no way he would stop. He's been in the bloodest matches ever..."

Bischoff claims the plan to get Jeff to BFG almost fell on its ass when Dixie got involved and tried to make a singles match. So he managed to get his way at the end.

**SUPERECWFAN1** · 10-21-2010, 09:00 PM

"I walk on fucking water and my words are biblical , I am the fucking anti-christ of pro wrestling." : Jeff Hardy.

"Their cheers only brought me pain. Those fans only made me kill myself. No more swanton bombs off 25 foot ladders for em."

"I live for Jeff ...myself. I'm tired of hurting for the fans. Why don't they hurt for me awhile ?"

Nice heel work...he's getting good at it.

They also bring up how silly people thought Jarrett would be to scrub toilets and all. That they would waste time making Jeff do that , if they didn't want him around.

**Astonishing X-Fan** · 10-21-2010, 09:14 PM

Originally Posted by SUPERECWFAN1

Bischoff discusses stopping the match at No Surrender. He did it not for Kurt , because he felt Kurt could win !

"Kurt's a machine...a warrior...no way he would stop. He's been in the bloodest matches ever..."

Bischoff claims the plan to get Jeff to BFG almost fell on its ass when Dixie got involved and tried to make a singles match. So he managed to get his way at the end.

And here's the plot hole.

If Eric wanted to avoid Angle ruining his plans, he could have simply awarded the win to Hardy when he stopped the match due to blood loss. It would make sense. Stoppages like that happen in things like boxing and MMA. Instead, he declared it a draw, giving Angle ANOTHER opportunity to get in Jeff's way.

Also, if his reason for stopping and declaring it a draw was because he was afraid if the match went on Angle would win, then why the fuck didn't he just make it a draw the first time? He restarted it TWICE.

Not to mention how Jeff never got any help getting that far in the first place. If him winning the title was so important, why take such a huge chance in not helping him sooner in some way? This entire plan basically hinged on the CHANCE that Hardy would go all the way. And even when they did help him, they did it in a stupid way.

There's just so much terrible logic in this storyline, and so much complication for the sake of complication.

**JCAll** · 10-21-2010, 09:36 PM

Originally Posted by SUPERECWFAN1

Morgan lays out that Abyss is more than a Frankenstein monster. He had brains and managed to out wit Dixie Carter !

I suppose this means Morgan isn't a big fan of books.

**SUPERECWFAN1** · 10-21-2010, 09:52 PM

Originally Posted by Astonishing X-Fan

And here's the plot hole.

If Eric wanted to avoid Angle ruining his plans, he could have simply awarded the win to Hardy when he stopped the match due to blood loss. It would make sense. Stoppages like that happen in things like boxing and MMA. Instead, he declared it a draw, giving Angle ANOTHER opportunity to get in Jeff's way.

Also, if his reason for stopping and declaring it a draw was because he was afraid if the match went on Angle would win, then why the fuck didn't he just make it a draw the first time? He restarted it TWICE.

Not to mention how Jeff never got any help getting that far in the first place. If him winning the title was so important, why take such a huge chance in not helping him sooner in some way? This entire plan basically hinged on the CHANCE that Hardy would go all the way. And even when they did help him, they did it in a stupid way.

There's just so much terrible logic in this storyline, and so much complication for the sake of complication.

Heres the thing though...why show their cards and help Hardy so soon ? Wouldn't they kill the swerve at 10/10/10. Plus we have to understand , Bischoff and Hogan's plan was in secret. Bischoff couldn't come out and name Hardy the #1 challenger to face Anderson or Dixie would have got suspicious.

So he had to play it like he was neutral. Or Dixie would ask.."Why are you so interested in Jeff winning this ?"

In terms of a shocking swerve angle it did its job in answering the question here. Bischoff's secret scheme was to get Jeff to BFG and then do it.

**Jared** · 10-21-2010, 11:55 PM

If Eric wanted to avoid Angle ruining his plans, he could have simply awarded the win to Hardy when he stopped the match due to blood loss. It would make sense. Stoppages like that happen in things like boxing and MMA. Instead, he declared it a draw, giving Angle ANOTHER opportunity to get in Jeff's way.

With title up for grabs, you don't just award it after a stoppage. I mean, yeah it's all fake and technically you could do whatever, but that would just seem worse, in a wrestling sense, than even a dirty win is. It'd be different if Jeff already had the belt.

Anyway, I didn't pay attention to the whole thing, but seemed to me like they did a pretty good job of selling the Master Plan concept. Considering that most big heel swerves and alliances barely get a backstory at all, I appreciate the efffort.

**Aubergine~!** · 10-21-2010, 11:57 PM

Originally Posted by JCAll

I suppose this means Morgan isn't a big fan of books.

I want Morgan to become the new Scott Steiner.

Just promo-wise.

**Benel Germosen** · 10-22-2010, 12:17 AM

Reaction is actually a really good way of getting angles over.

Unfortunately, the angles they're trying to get over are shit.

Speaking of invasion angles, does anyone knows if Chikara's gonna collect the whole BDK saga after it wraps up. I really want to see it get collected.

Also: Dragon Gate USA internet PPV is free tomorrow night at 9pm.