Bleach Manga/Anime Discussion Thread II

[Ghost]

i wonder what would have happened if the vandenreich invaded while aizen was in charge of hueco mundo

Either Soul Society decides to focus on the most emergent threat, in which case Aizen destroys Kamakura, or they try to fight on two fronts, in which case Soul Society gets destroyed.

Either way, they lose.

[1505627]

Either Soul Society decides to focus on the most emergent threat, in which case Aizen destroys Kamakura, or they try to fight on two fronts, in which case Soul Society gets destroyed.

Either way, they lose.

Well couldn't htey just take time to prepare while aizen and buckbeard's forces duke it out?

[Jacksane19]

I have a few thoughts.

First, I think this arc is very rushed simply because the Hueco Mundo arc was so slow that Kubo got a lot of complaints about it.

Second, I agree that the Quincy are being hyped in order to raise the stakes high enough to compare to Aizen.

Third, I'm fairly excited for this arc. Although I find it a bit silly that Quincies (mortal humans who should be far more vulnerable to injury than shinigami) are completely destroying SS and Hueco Mundo, I find their offensive abilities to be interesting and exciting.

Finally, I have a few predictions for the next ten chapters. Old Man Yama will confront Manlybeard, and after using his bankai, will be killed. Manlybeard will find Aizen and steal the Hougyoku, explaining that Aizen couldn't fully harness its power because he couldn't forcibly absorb its power (which Manlybeard will accomplish due to his quincy powers). Manlybeard will take over SS and the shinigami will retreat to the world of the living in time to meet up with Ichigo and company when they return.

[Ghost]

Well couldn't htey just take time to prepare while aizen and buckbeard's forces duke it out?

They would be way more likely to form an alliance, really - they have similar goals, and very little reason to fight each other. If Emperor Manlybeard is willing to destabilize the entire cosmology just to get back at Soul Society, he probably doesn't care if Aizen takes out the Spirit King. In fact, he might think it's a good idea.

Aizen meanwhile might have a problem with the whole "destroy the world" thing, but he still has more to gain from letting the Wandenreich raze Soul Society - considering his usual confidence, he'd probably assume he could just deal with them himself once he'd become God.

Both are probably smart enough to realize that a conflict between the two of them would only decimate their forces and put them at a disadvantage when fighting Soul Society later. At the very least they'd put it off until after they've crushed their common enemy.

The only thing they might actually fight over is who gets to rule in Hueco Mundo, but considering Aizen didn't really give two shits about the arrancar, he'd probably let the quincy enslave the hollows as much as they want.

[Ghost]

Although I find it a bit silly that Quincies (mortal humans who should be far more vulnerable to injury than shinigami)

Well, the same could be said for the Fullbringers, yet Tsukishima got punched through the chest by Byakuya and apparently just kinda walked it off.

Also, they have a super form that makes them nearly immortal and lets them vaccuum up any spirit particles in their vicinity.

[1505627]

Third, I'm fairly excited for this arc. Although I find it a bit silly that Quincies (mortal humans who should be far more vulnerable to injury than shinigami) are completely destroying SS and Hueco Mundo, I find their offensive abilities to be interesting and exciting.

Arrancar and Shinigami are very theatric, and like long fights where they can pull off the whole "i am not left handed" bit

Quincy on the other hand, shoot you in the face. They apply every it of strategic ability they have, and use it to get into the position to shoot you in the face. and then they shoot you in the face

[Dark Soul # 7]

Yay for cute girl villains!

I hope she's the Riruka of this arc.

Same here. I counted 11 pillars of blue fire on that splash page. I wonder if that's it or if there are more super-quincy in Soul Society.

To be fair, we all know that aside from a couple of the liutenants, the captains are the only ones in Soul Society worth a damn in a major fight.

That's why they didn't bring anybody below vice-captain level to the Fake Karakura town battle. They know that those people suck and would just de.

She's got a heart-shaped belt buckle.

Methinks she's the one having a "cute girl" image going on, possibly with a cruel streak for ironic contrast.

I'm betting on easy going and fun loving but quite mean and trigger happy.

[sunofdarkchild]

They would be way more likely to form an alliance, really - they have similar goals, and very little reason to fight each other. If Emperor Manlybeard is willing to destabilize the entire cosmology just to get back at Soul Society, he probably doesn't care if Aizen takes out the Spirit King. In fact, he might think it's a good idea.

Aizen meanwhile might have a problem with the whole "destroy the world" thing, but he still has more to gain from letting the Wandenreich raze Soul Society - considering his usual confidence, he'd probably assume he could just deal with them himself once he'd become God.

Both are probably smart enough to realize that a conflict between the two of them would only decimate their forces and put them at a disadvantage when fighting Soul Society later. At the very least they'd put it off until after they've crushed their common enemy.

The only thing they might actually fight over is who gets to rule in Hueco Mundo, but considering Aizen didn't really give two shits about the arrancar, he'd probably let the quincy enslave the hollows as much as they want.

I know the vandereich have been using arrancar as fodder, but their anti-hollow convictions would seem to get in the way of that kind of alliance. The espada would have to go.

[Jacksane19]

Well, the same could be said for the Fullbringers, yet Tsukishima got punched through the chest by Byakuya and apparently just kinda walked it off.

Also, they have a super form that makes them nearly immortal and lets them vaccuum up any spirit particles in their vicinity.

Yeah, but the only reason Tsukishima stood any chance was because of the knowledge his fullbring gave him. He wasn't actually captain-level, he just happened to have a power that let him learn all of his enemies weaknesses. Plus, the hole through the chest seemed a hell of a lot more lethal to him than it would to any shinigami.

Still, there are plenty of things in Bleach that annoy me like that. Like how Ginjou stabbed Ichigo when Ichigo was in his human body, but he didn't die or even come close.

[Dark Soul # 7]

I know the vandereich have been using arrancar as fodder, but their anti-hollow convictions would seem to get in the way of that kind of alliance. The espada would have to go.

I'm thinking that they could tolerate the arrancar army for a time. At least until Soul Society was gone.

There might be some "accidental" confrontations here and there though.

[Siriel]

Yeah, but the only reason Tsukishima stood any chance was because of the knowledge his fullbring gave him. He wasn't actually captain-level, he just happened to have a power that let him learn all of his enemies weaknesses.

Errr...

That is kind of a ridiculous thing to say. If his power allows him to hang with captains, it means he's captain-level. Given that y'know, captains are captains because of their powers.

Plus, the hole through the chest seemed a hell of a lot more lethal to him than it would to any shinigami.

Honestly, despite having a huge hole punched in his chest, the dude was still well enough to try to attack Ichigo, then run off without leaving a trace for anyone to see.

That sounds about right for how Shinigamis react to lethal wounds.

[sunofdarkchild]

Errr...

That is kind of a ridiculous thing to say. If his power allows him to hang with captains, it means he's captain-level. Given that y'know, captains are captains because of their powers.


Honestly, despite having a huge hole punched in his chest, the dude was still well enough to try to attack Ichigo, then run off without leaving a trace for anyone to see.

That sounds about right for how Shinigamis react to lethal wounds.

Knowing what Byakuya's bankai does is one thing. Having the speed to dodged it and even manipulate where it goes is another matter entirely. Tsukishima had to have close to captain level speed to pull that off. Going by speed and power, he might well be above some of the weaker captains.

[Ghost]

I know the vandereich have been using arrancar as fodder, but their anti-hollow convictions would seem to get in the way of that kind of alliance. The espada would have to go.

Still, they're not killing arrancar just for the sake of killing arrancar - they are recruiting them for their war effort. Taking down Soul Society obviously has a higher priority to them. I think they would at least tolerate the Espada as long as they didn't have to treat them as equals.

And, again, Aizen didn't really care about the Espada either.

[Ghost]

Knowing what Byakuya's bankai does is one thing. Having the speed to dodged it and even manipulate where it goes is another matter entirely. Tsukishima had to have close to captain level speed to pull that off. Going by speed and power, he might well be above some of the weaker captains.

To be fair, Tsukishima's ability allows him to give himself training retroactively - apparently even in circumstances where that wouldn't make any sense.

He's pretty hax, is what I'm saying.

[sunofdarkchild]

To be fair, Tsukishima's ability allows him to give himself training retroactively - apparently even in circumstances where that wouldn't make any sense.

He's pretty hax, is what I'm saying.

Well, Kenpachi did want to fight him. I'll admit it's weird that he would have lost to Chad with 'el diablo' if Chad hadn't been overcome by the memory change and then gave Byakuya such a hard time.

Tsukishima was the best part of that arc. Seeing everyone Ichigo cares about side with him when they haven't actually switched sides at all was an intersting and even disturbing twist. Then they had to ruin it with an inferior version of a death note scheme.