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    Quote Originally Posted by SonOf D. View Post
    Ah. Didnt know this. My bad. I was suffering from arc-fatigue at the end there (Aizen just wouldn't die).



    I mean as a storytelling convention, a knight templar is a lawful good character who is not a nice guy. Sorry too much tvtropes.



    So you're saying that if the central 46 issued a similar order now things would be different?
    more than likely it would. if it were back in the old days, yama would've order ichigo to stay out of HM to save orihime or worst, had a few captains drag his ass back to SS to made sure he stayed out of HM. instead he merely suggested for him to stay out but he knew ichigo wasn't gonna stay out so he sent 4 captains to back him up. mind you, he said they couldnt spare the man power to save orihime. also note that when rukia and renji went to HM to back up ichigo, he asked if byakuya let them go. they said no. why? because byakuya told them that his orders were to take them back to SS. what they did afterwards was none of his business. so yeah, depending on the order, i think things would be different.
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    Quote Originally Posted by master of read View Post
    more than likely it would. if it were back in the old days, yama would've order ichigo to stay out of HM to save orihime or worst, had a few captains drag his ass back to SS to made sure he stayed out of HM. instead he merely suggested for him to stay out but he knew ichigo wasn't gonna stay out so he sent 4 captains to back him up. mind you, he said they couldnt spare the man power to save orihime. also note that when rukia and renji went to HM to back up ichigo, he asked if byakuya let them go. they said no. why? because byakuya told them that his orders were to take them back to SS. what they did afterwards was none of his business. so yeah, depending on the order, i think things would be different.
    Fair enough. But Bleach just has too many dropped plotlines (Quincy genocide, Captain Lassie (wth is he), Hell and Where are the dead Espada etc.) for me to take it seriously anymore.
    Dont tell me. . . That man. . . In that place. . . At that time. . . With that jutsu. . . - lol, anime suspense kills me!

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    But it will always hold a special place in my heart for having the worst heaven ever
    Dont tell me. . . That man. . . In that place. . . At that time. . . With that jutsu. . . - lol, anime suspense kills me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SonOf D. View Post
    Does anyone read bleach for plot anymore or do you read it for the sexy characters and stylish fights? For me its the latter.
    Yo! Welcome to the forum!




    As to your question......... it's the latter for me as well.



    But hey, if you're still enjoying it..... that's what counts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holy Spirit View Post
    Yo! Welcome to the forum!




    As to your question......... it's the latter for me as well.



    But hey, if you're still enjoying it..... that's what counts.
    Thanks, though i've been here awhile, just rarely if ever post. And yeah i still enjoy it. I can't stand the short chapters though, so i wait until the arc is finished and then binge.
    Dont tell me. . . That man. . . In that place. . . At that time. . . With that jutsu. . . - lol, anime suspense kills me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SonOf D. View Post
    Fair enough. But Bleach just has too many dropped plotlines (Quincy genocide, Captain Lassie (wth is he), Hell and Where are the dead Espada etc.) for me to take it seriously anymore.
    they already explained the quincy genocide at the start of the manga.

    komamura is described as being a species of dog people.

    and the dead espada are...............dead. what's to explain?
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    Quote Originally Posted by master of read View Post
    and the dead espada are...............dead. what's to explain?
    Well... there's at least one or two of them that a lot of us are hoping aren't dead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by master of read View Post
    they already explained the quincy genocide at the start of the manga.

    komamura is described as being a species of dog people.

    and the dead espada are...............dead. what's to explain?
    On the quincide I meant that there has been no repercussions for any of those involved. You would think the extermination of a strange german-japanese hybrid culture would raise some eyebrows. And where was it said that Sajin is a dog-person. The espada, in the mythology it says that any hollow killed by a shinigami is either sent to hell or soul society. Where did these dudes souls go?
    Dont tell me. . . That man. . . In that place. . . At that time. . . With that jutsu. . . - lol, anime suspense kills me!

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    Quote Originally Posted by master of read View Post
    they already explained the quincy genocide at the start of the manga.

    komamura is described as being a species of dog people.

    and the dead espada are...............dead. what's to explain?
    Hallibel is supposed to be alive, but we only know that looking at the Databooks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SonOf D. View Post
    Has central 46 returned? Because after their deaths, Yama was placed in command. And i say he is a knight templar because based on his blind faith in the law he was willing to fight and kill two prize students he had raised and trained for centuries. Also im sure you know that goverments are always assholes in shonen. Always
    I was going to have some fun breaking apart how ignorant I feel it is to watch something solely for "moving pretty pictures of half naked women."

    But then you said this.

    And I think I can simply say that you would know more about the manga....and not be behind on these sorta things if you actually cared about the plot.

    So why question or wonder about things that don't matter to you?
    Ah. Didnt know this. My bad. I was suffering from arc-fatigue at the end there (Aizen just wouldn't die).
    IOW: Not enough bang, bang, pow, BOOM going on.

    Gotcha.

    Quote Originally Posted by Holy Spirit View Post
    Yo! Welcome to the forum!
    As to your question......... it's the latter for me as well.
    But hey, if you're still enjoying it..... that's what counts.
    And there's the other one.

    On the quincide I meant that there has been no repercussions for any of those involved. You would think the extermination of a strange german-japanese hybrid culture would raise some eyebrows.
    So...lemme give plot reasons why that didn't raise eyebrows......the Soul Society governing body sends down an official order to exterminate a group that was radically throwing the spirit and real world off to a level that would eventually destroy both.
    This group had before hand openly stated that they had no plans to stop their actions and would defend that decision to the teeth, to the final man.

    So:
    1. They are destroying the worlds.
    2. They refuse to ever, ever, ever stop.


    I hope that clears it up a bit. I can keep going if not.

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    I finally figured out how to phrase my confusion / issue with holy's style.

    Reading manga / watching anime only for the big explosions and fight scenes is like watching a porno for the plot ( like the juxtaposition there? ).
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    Transient just likes to do that.

    Why he keeps picking up ridiculous arguments and then try to defend them, I will never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Transient Guest View Post
    And there's the other one.
    S'up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holy Spirit View Post
    S'up.
    S'going on holy. I instantly thought of you when I started reading these posts. I kinda had to put the new guy through the steps because if I didn't do it to him then I would have been rude because I only did it to you.

    It comes from a deep seated belief in treating others equally.
    Siriel:
    Transient just likes to do that.

    Why he keeps picking up ridiculous arguments and then try to defend them, I will never know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SonOf D. View Post
    On the quincide I meant that there has been no repercussions for any of those involved. You would think the extermination of a strange german-japanese hybrid culture would raise some eyebrows. And where was it said that Sajin is a dog-person. The espada, in the mythology it says that any hollow killed by a shinigami is either sent to hell or soul society. Where did these dudes souls go?
    Aaroniero and Szayel went to hell. The others... not certain.

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    Anybody wonder if Zangetsu (the spirit) looks different now that Ichigo's zanpakuto has a new form or if Ichigo got his vizard powers back along with the rest of his abilities.

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    Anybody else wonder if Zangetsu (the spirit) looks different now that Ichigo's zanpakuto has a new form or if Ichigo got his vizard powers back along with the rest of his abilities.
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