Never forget how Republicans and Democrats can always somehow find the wherewithal to work together when it comes to the important issues.
Like the Patriot Act.
Nothing to see here. move along.
Last edited by Pól Rua; 02-09-2013 at 06:34 PM.
"Loudly proclaiming that you are above childish things isn't a sign of maturity - it's proof of adolescence." - Schnitzy Pretzelpants
I have a HUGE problem with a legal white paper stating the executive branch is justified in being "judge, jury, and executioner" of American citizens without some sort of due process that is granted by the constitution and is our right. Due process can simply be the requirement for the executive branch to prove to a third party that the American is a traitor and is planning to harm other Americans (a proof of intent to harm). To seize that kind of power and authority in a liberal free democracy is disgusting. I wouldn't have voted for the asshole if I knew he was going to do that.
I entirely understand your position winslow but 7th angel raises another valid point.
Drones are a relatively new technology: some people are acting as though the technology is the issue not the underlying legal issues.
That's leading them to overlook that you can do the exact same thing with Tomahaak missiles or plain old bombs.
It's also leading to a series of state laws in the US with blanket bans on ALL uses of drones, including stuff like search and rescue and forest fire observation where they'd be extremely valuable.
I'm all for using robots, both on a geek level and because once perfected (and even in many situations today) they'll lead to far fewer casualties than conventional methods. I agree there's a big distinction between the use of drones and the use of lethal force on American citizens. As Penn Jillette said on his podcast (yes I know he's hardly an expert, but he's funny and he made a good point), "You shouldn't be worried about this President, and maybe not the next two, but somewhere down the line there's going to be someone worse than Bush and he's going to have this power. That's what you need to be worried about." (Not an exact quote, but the general idea). Once given, it's hard prying these powers back from the people we've granted them to (though in this case they were self-granted, which is even more troubling).
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