But getting back to the draft... the evil inherent in the draft IMO is not that it exists (at least for now only in concept), but that it is misused or has the potential to be misused not only by our delegation of powers to others, but in its actual physical implementation.
Last edited by Drusilla lives!; 08-07-2010 at 07:06 PM.
Yeah, absolutely. Plus it's just conceptually evil.But getting back to the draft... the evil inherent in the draft IMO is not that it exists (at least for now only in concept), but that it is misused or has the potential to be misused not only by our delegation of powers to others, but in its actual physical implementation.
I hate to sound unfeeling, or disrespectful... to you or anyone here who lived through (and perhaps even fought in) Vietnam... but the truth is (at least as I see it), no one gives a shit about Vietnam. IMO no one gives a shit about hippies, the counter-culture, or anything much else from that era really... although (IMO) we're still living with the effects of the excesses of that time (particularly the widespread use of recreational drugs, which is another subtle form of slavery, again IMO).
It should go without saying, but we're in a new era where all nations have to answer to a "higher" authority... namely that of the "wheelers and dealers" of the global economy. And if we should learn anything from Osama, it's that there is much to be concerned about in this new world, particularly when those wheeler and dealers are no longer content with boasting about the size of their yachts, and move on to how many men they have under command. In light of this, yes, it (the draft) is slavery if it is misused as you suggest... particularly if military power is indeed "for sale" to simply support other mercantilistic aims. And of course, if that's the case, it's slavery IMO for a more obvious reason... they should pay a decent wage.
It's not that I don't "give a rats ass," I feel for those who suffered through it (particularly for those who did make the sacrifice and go)... nor is it the case that I think nothing useful or positive came out of the period on the whole. But we've also had to live through the aftermath of it, and unfortunately that wasn't (and judging by what's going on in Mexico, still isn't) all too romantic.
But basically my point is that it's mostly just water under the bridge... and for those who don't see it that way, well... get over it.
EDIT: I should clarify (if it's not obvious), that IMO most of the "good" aspects of that era are amongst the things carried away on the water under the bridge... what IS left is mostly crock... or should I say "crack." Nuff said (at least by me)... I return you to your regularly scheduled programming... mainly the discussion of that movie I'll never see.
Last edited by Drusilla lives!; 08-09-2010 at 09:01 AM.
Well IMO, Calderón is right in one regard... we here in the US DO have a problem with drug use (which has gotten progressively worse since the 60s).
It's an easy way out for him to call for legalization, but then I can't blame him too much for that when they're hanging bodies from lamp posts.
It wasn't germane to the draft discussion, but then maybe it is, if one of the reasons behind the draft were to use the troops to shore up security at the southern border.
Last edited by Drusilla lives!; 08-09-2010 at 04:45 PM.
I sorta realize (after rereading the last few posts) that I should try to better explain what I was driving at... particularly since you're not a mind reader.
As you mentioned in your article...
... it just seems to me that there could be something more to that "other purposes" bit, and not necessarily for more troops to deal with the Taliban in Afghanistan (and hence your Vietnam redux scenario). Since IMO the drug cartels just to the south of us could be viewed as much as a threat (if not more so) then the phantom menace a world away (that is, if they aren't already).... (if passed) all Americans between 18 and 42 "to perform national service, either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of the uniformed services, and for other purposes." Given that Iraq drove recruitment way south, and that the ridiculous continuation of our involvement in Afghanistan (our Pakistani allies are feeding the money we give them to the Taliban we're fighting in Afghanistan – the Taliban they invented?!! Gosh, I never saw that coming!) is putting further squeeze on military capabilities, and there are a couple other "defense of American corporate right to make profits" wars brewing under the guise of "fighting terrorism," ...
How's a drug war just south of Las Vagas sound? If Calderón has (understandably) folded his hand, then IMO we might eventually be "occupying" a good portion of our own country (or maybe even parts of Mexico). But then perhaps (as you note) we won't need a draft then will we? Eveyone will be "stepping up" I suppose... except you of course.
Hey, you never know... but of course it is a rather far fetched idea. One for which I'm not losing any sleep over (I'm not losing any sleep over the Taliban either for that matter).
Last edited by Drusilla lives!; 08-09-2010 at 11:40 PM.
Tee, hee... I guess I still don't get it do I? Well, I never claimed to be the brightest bulb in the bunch.Eveyone will be "stepping up" I suppose... except you of course.
All I'll say is Ford makes an awful lot of cars in Mexico and leave it at that.
Last edited by Drusilla lives!; 08-10-2010 at 01:21 PM.
There is no comedy circuit anymore. Everyone's so damn serious about everything.
And it's a damn shame too, isn't it... I mean, I really think we had the routine down pat.