New Readers of WW: Recommended Reading & Questions

[E.L. Berquist]

is League of One in continuity ?

[Cardinal!]

Could anyone tell me the name of the trade where Wonder Woman gathers an all woman Justice League? I really want to see her interaction with Cassandra Cain.

Thank you.

IIRC, there were two stories you might be referring to. One was apart of the "Justice Leagues" mini-series, which IIRC, was never collected in trade, nor do I think it included Cassandra. Anyway, the issue of the story arc was Justice League of Amazons #1.


The second story you might be referring to was reprinted in the "Paradise Found" TPB where Diana gathers a full-fledged army of female heroes; Batgirl does make an appearance, but due to the large cast included in this, I'm not sure if she even interacted with Diana at all. It was a fun story, though!

Also, you might check out the recent Wonder Woman #600, which has a short story with Diana leading a smaller army of female characters into battle, including Stephanie Brown Batgirl and Misfit.

I have a question about Rise of the Olympian.

When Wonder Woman is smashing the tower, she says that feeling 'the rage was a one time mistake' and that she didn't plan on letting it happen again.

What story was this line referencing?

Thanks

I'm 99% sure Gail was having Diana refer to Diana's murder of Max Lord in the Superman: Sacrifice storyline just before Infinite Crisis. The 1% doubt is coming from the fact that Diana wasn't "in rage" at the time she killed Max (certainly not in berzerker mode like she was in that scene from RotO), but I guess that's a point of debate.

I am not a WW fan nor am I a WW basher but can someone explain to me what is up with the American theme on the old costume. I know she has a newer costume but was there ever any sort of reasonable explanation or was it just a thing from the Golden Age that no one really questioned. I remember the animated movie saying because she was a diplomat to America that she needed to wear the red,white, and blue on the armor but I am not sure if that is cannon.

That costume seemed really weird and too flashy in terms of colors to represent a princess from an ancient Greek civilization of all women. The newer one doesn't fit it either as it looks too modern for her.

There have been a few takes on this, and its one of many points fans are often divided on; in the Golden Age version which the animated WW adapted in this case, the costume was designed to help win her acceptance in America.

The in-canon version (or at least in my personal canon for the character) that was established in the '80s reboot has it explained that, years before Diana's creation, an American Air Force pilot (Diana Trevor, Steve Trevor's mother) crash landed on Themyscira and died defending several Amazons from a monster that was trapped under the island and prevented its escape. In tribute, the Amazons created the "ceremonial armor" based on designs from Diana Trevor's patches on her uniform, hence the American theme. The pilot is also who Princess Diana was named after, and Diana was awarded the honorary tunic after winning the contest to go into "Man's World."

More recently in Gail Simone's run, she added to this by having it that the Amazons created the costume based on natural inspirations, like an eagle that was in the sky at the time, stars, and the colors having their own representative meaning; oh, and apparently the Amazons created the design before Betsy Ross created hers. And somehow this supposedly in no way contradicts the Diana Trevor story established earlier on. And it's truthfully kind of a mess, and I think a lot of people prefer to ignore this "elaboration." But then, there are some people who don't accept any of the versions listed here and will naturally always think the American costume is illogical and dumb.

is League of One in continuity ?

There was nothing that occurred in League of One to suggest that it wasn't in continuity, and given that it wasn't labeled an "Elseworlds" which was still being used at the time, I would believe it is indeed in continuity; however, nothing from that story has been referenced since then in the main Wonder Woman or JLA series, either, so make of it what you will. It was a good story and stands well on its own merits.

[Cardinal!]

Could anyone tell me the name of the trade where Wonder Woman gathers an all woman Justice League? I really want to see her interaction with Cassandra Cain.

Thank you.

IIRC, there were two stories you might be referring to. One was apart of the "Justice Leagues" mini-series, which IIRC, was never collected in trade, nor do I think it included Cassandra. Anyway, the issue of the story arc was Justice League of Amazons #1.


The second story you might be referring to was reprinted in the "Paradise Found" TPB where Diana gathers a full-fledged army of female heroes; Batgirl does make an appearance, but due to the large cast included in this, I'm not sure if she even interacted with Diana at all. It was a fun story, though!

Also, you might check out the recent Wonder Woman #600, which has a short story with Diana leading a smaller army of female characters into battle, including Stephanie Brown Batgirl and Misfit.

I have a question about Rise of the Olympian.

When Wonder Woman is smashing the tower, she says that feeling 'the rage was a one time mistake' and that she didn't plan on letting it happen again.

What story was this line referencing?

Thanks

I'm 99% sure Gail was having Diana refer to Diana's murder of Max Lord in the Superman: Sacrifice storyline just before Infinite Crisis. The 1% doubt is coming from the fact that Diana wasn't "in rage" at the time she killed Max (certainly not in berzerker mode like she was in that scene from RotO), but I guess that's a point of debate.

I am not a WW fan nor am I a WW basher but can someone explain to me what is up with the American theme on the old costume. I know she has a newer costume but was there ever any sort of reasonable explanation or was it just a thing from the Golden Age that no one really questioned. I remember the animated movie saying because she was a diplomat to America that she needed to wear the red,white, and blue on the armor but I am not sure if that is cannon.

That costume seemed really weird and too flashy in terms of colors to represent a princess from an ancient Greek civilization of all women. The newer one doesn't fit it either as it looks too modern for her.

There have been a few takes on this, and its one of many points fans are often divided on; in the Golden Age version which the animated WW adapted in this case, the costume was designed to help win her acceptance in America.

The in-canon version (or at least in my personal canon for the character) that was established in the '80s reboot has it explained that, years before Diana's creation, an American Air Force pilot (Diana Trevor, Steve Trevor's mother) crash landed on Themyscira and died defending several Amazons from a monster that was trapped under the island and prevented its escape. In tribute, the Amazons created the "ceremonial armor" based on designs from Diana Trevor's patches on her uniform, hence the American theme. The pilot is also who Princess Diana was named after, and Diana was awarded the honorary tunic after winning the contest to go into "Man's World."

More recently in Gail Simone's run, she added to this by having it that the Amazons created the costume based on natural inspirations, like an eagle that was in the sky at the time, stars, and the colors having their own representative meaning; oh, and apparently the Amazons created the design before Betsy Ross created hers. And somehow this supposedly in no way contradicts the Diana Trevor story established earlier on. And it's truthfully kind of a mess, and I think a lot of people prefer to ignore this "elaboration." But then, there are some people who don't accept any of the versions listed here and will naturally always think the American costume is illogical and dumb.

is League of One in continuity ?

There was nothing that occurred in League of One to suggest that it wasn't in continuity, and given that it wasn't labeled an "Elseworlds" which was still being used at the time, I would believe it is indeed in continuity; however, nothing from that story has been referenced since then in the main Wonder Woman or JLA series, either, so make of it what you will. It was a good story and stands well on its own merits.

[CHCl3]

There have been a few takes on this, and its one of many points fans are often divided on; in the Golden Age version which the animated WW adapted in this case, the costume was designed to help win her acceptance in America.

The in-canon version (or at least in my personal canon for the character) that was established in the '80s reboot has it explained that, years before Diana's creation, an American Air Force pilot (Diana Trevor, Steve Trevor's mother) crash landed on Themyscira and died defending several Amazons from a monster that was trapped under the island and prevented its escape. In tribute, the Amazons created the "ceremonial armor" based on designs from Diana Trevor's patches on her uniform, hence the American theme. The pilot is also who Princess Diana was named after, and Diana was awarded the honorary tunic after winning the contest to go into "Man's World."

More recently in Gail Simone's run, she added to this by having it that the Amazons created the costume based on natural inspirations, like an eagle that was in the sky at the time, stars, and the colors having their own representative meaning; oh, and apparently the Amazons created the design before Betsy Ross created hers. And somehow this supposedly in no way contradicts the Diana Trevor story established earlier on. And it's truthfully kind of a mess, and I think a lot of people prefer to ignore this "elaboration." But then, there are some people who don't accept any of the versions listed here and will naturally always think the American costume is illogical and dumb.

I see...

Can you also explain to me why the old armor only protect the body and not the arms, legs, or head? I understand that she is endowed by the gods with certain gifts but I don't see why someone with equal talents wouldn't just aim for the exposed parts of the body.

[Shazam]

Which was the last issue in the current run of WW, before they changed the numbering to #600 ?
Just looking for the issue number, thanks.

[The Man From Room X]

It was WW #44. I want to read Greg Rucka's run in WW. Where would be a good place to start?

[Flying Saucers Over Oz]

I see...

Can you also explain to me why the old armor only protect the body and not the arms, legs, or head? I understand that she is endowed by the gods with certain gifts but I don't see why someone with equal talents wouldn't just aim for the exposed parts of the body.

Essentially, they retro-changed Wonder Woman's established costume as 'armor.' It doesn't exactly make much sense, but we're stuck with it.

[Cardinal!]

Yeah, the logic relies a bit on readers' ability to suspend belief based on the fact that the Amazons themselves as well as other ancient military cultures weren't really big on full body armor.

Diana's costume is generally more used for her routine super-heroing and general public appearances, but for the particularly nasty battles and undertakings, she usually suits up a little more.



I'd rather not post the Screaming Chicken armor.

[spark627]

It was WW #44. I want to read Greg Rucka's run in WW. Where would be a good place to start?

Down to Earth TPB. It is the first arc of his run, it is really really good. As his run continues it gets better and better. It is prob my fave run on WW.

[Halo Jones]

IIRC, there were two stories you might be referring to. One was apart of the "Justice Leagues" mini-series, which IIRC, was never collected in trade, nor do I think it included Cassandra. Anyway, the issue of the story arc was Justice League of Amazons #1.

Um, that's interesting. What was this story about, don't think I've ever heard of it.

[Cardinal!]

It was a mini-series/fifth-week thing called "Justice Leagues," where the JLA we know has their memory of the JLA erased, all but... the words "Justice League of A_____," which causes each member to form their own team filling in the blank appropriately (Justice League of Amazons, Justice League of Aliens, Justice League of Atlantis, etc.) That was the premise as I understood it. Honestly, the reviews were terrible and my money was tight at the time, so I skipped out on the mini-series.^_^ Still, the covers by Perez were pretty, and it was cool to know some limbo-ized third stringers were getting some usage on the offshoot "Leagues" (Black Orchid!).

[Halo Jones]

Is all of Phil Jimenez's run collected in the Paradise Lost and Paradise Found trades? And specifically, the story where Diana fuses her soul with Darkseid (which I believe was his run).

[americanwonder]

Is all of Phil Jimenez's run collected in the Paradise Lost and Paradise Found trades?

No. Paradise Lost and Paradise Found only collect the first year or so. 178-188 (I believe) are not collected.

And specifically, the story where Diana fuses her soul with Darkseid (which I believe was his run).

It's in Paradise Found, as part of the tie-in to Our Worlds At War.

[CarolStrick]

is League of One in continuity ?

Hm. Let me check my synopsis. There's no "not in continuity" sign on it, so yeah, I consider it quite comfortably within the bounds of DCU continuity. If DC has such a thing these days.

[contemode]

Is Phil Jimenez's run on Wonder Woman worth reading?