Sylverster Stallone and Bruce Willis vs Steven Seagal

[mailedbypostman1]

Right. Composite. Name a single person in any other the composites to tank a bullet.

Unbreakable tanked a train crash.

[Syrile Demonthyst]

Normal ants are able to lift 5 times their body weight.

And actually he did have feats, at the end of the movie he was holding dozens if not more ants on his shoulders.

I could hold a good twenty-million ants with little to no problem.

[Syrile Demonthyst]

Unbreakable tanked a train crash.

Yeah...
I've went over that earlier though.
Not really quantified what he actually went through. The inside of the train wasn't on screen.

A lot of people have survived silly things but couldn't reproduce it again.
Best case scenario that was SMvFL. There is nothing in that movie to suggest he was capable of that type of durability again.

[Snake-eyes]

I could hold a good twenty-million ants with little to no problem.

Could you hold dozens of people with no problem?

Because seeing as he was an ant, that would be a proper comparison.

[Syrile Demonthyst]

Could you hold dozens of people with no problem?

Because seeing as he was an ant, that would be a proper comparison.

Feats are what counts. They don't translate that way.
So, what he gains from that movie (Which was only his voice anyway) is that he can hold a dozen ants.

[Snake-eyes]

And he has a feat of lifting dozens of times his body weight.

[Syrile Demonthyst]

And he has a feat of lifting dozens of times his body weight.

As an ant.
He doesn't have any feats of lifting say... 2,500lbs.
He doesn't get to transfer feats into what they Could be. That's not how things are done.

If so, I could point out that Seagal never, ever really tries and easily defeats even the most 'skilled' opponent and thus he hasn't even shown a bit of his real skill.

But I don't because there are no feats showing what it takes to challenge him. Thus, it's invalid. Abstract ideas are not feats.

[Snake-eyes]

The character was able to lift dozens of times it's body weight, that means his composite will also be able to lift dozens of times it's body weight.

If you disagree, ask for a mod ruling.

[Syrile Demonthyst]

The character was able to lift dozens of times it's body weight, that means his composite will also be able to lift dozens of times it's body weight.

If you disagree, ask for a mod ruling.

Dozens of times his body weight isn't a feat is the point.
Show a feat where Stallone lifted dozens of times his body weight.
It's abstract. He is shown lifting dozens of ants.
Also, Stallone has never shown the speed or skill to land a hit on Seagal. So I don't see it mattering either way.

[Sol M]

A lot of people have survived silly things but couldn't reproduce it again.
Best case scenario that was SMvFL. There is nothing in that movie to suggest he was capable of that type of durability again.

Just to note, SMvsFL only applies if there is an actual contradiction.

Is there any other instance of a non depowered Mr Unbreakable being damaged by something less than a train wreck?

[Snake-eyes]

Dozens of times his body weight isn't a feat is the point.
Show a feat where Stallone lifted dozens of times his body weight.
It's abstract. He is shown lifting dozens of ants.
Also, Stallone has never shown the speed or skill to land a hit on Seagal. So I don't see it mattering either way.

This is composite Stallone, Therefore I only have to show that one of his characters had the ability.

[abmccray]

Just to note, SMvsFL only applies if there is an actual contradiction.

Is there any other instance of a non depowered Mr Unbreakable being damaged by something less than a train wreck?

Yeah, in a movie of that length, it's not SmvFL, it's an unknown feat. There's nothing to quantify since we don't know exactly what happened in that trai nwreck - we know his durability came into play in some way, but not exactly how (as there are many ways to die in a train wreck as well).

[Syrile Demonthyst]

Just to note, SMvsFL only applies if there is an actual contradiction.

Is there any other instance of a non depowered Mr Unbreakable being damaged by something less than a train wreck?

How many times was he hit by anything?
He barely has enough feats to actually say he is resistant to damage.
The hits from the criminal may have did some damage. We didn't see anything to show that he didn't get bruising or anything.

And as is stated in another post, there is no way of knowing what happened to him in the train. Which is what I have been saying all along.

[BYC]

Unbreakable shows strength feat of Dunn benching a lot. His durability feats consist of him having the killer/rapist at the end of the movie throwing him around without taking much damage.

He is vulnerable to water. His body reacts to water with panic very quickly, cause breathing problems and seizures.

[Sharpandpointies]

Beyond the fact that this seems to be a bit of a joke thread, let's consider the whole 'Composite' idea.

If a character spent some time as an ant in one of their movies, do they then get the strength of an ant? Sure. Just like if someone spent some time as a cheetah they should get the speed of a cheetah.

Note - nowhere in there does it say proportional.

As an example in the other direction, if Composite Leonard Nimoy shows up, he gets Unicron's abilities. He doesn't get Unicron's abilities scaled down to human size, which is what 'proportional' Unicron's abilities would be.

Same goes here.

So Stallone doesn't get 'an ant's strength, set up proportional to a human sized being', he gets 'an ant's strength'. Which is utterly eclipsed by Rocky or Rambo's strength, to name two, so it's not really a factor.