And after the next x-men stories i read were the Dark Phoenix saga,and even way back then i did not have to knew the continuity of the x-men characters to get the story.
Thus why i dont see how Avengers vs X-Men can just be read by fans that have read recent marvel events,AvX basics are right in the issue one.
The story of AvX is not a repetition of older stories though,more like a well thought way to have the main super hero teams of marvel clashing with each other with the role of Phonix in this event being intriguing.
I know it have me read more recent x-men stories.
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So clearly they disagree with you about Fury and Hawkeye, at least, and it's their opinions that interest me more than yours, since they publish the comics and you don't. (No offense, your opinions are as valid as any other fan's, including mine).
It's clearly inconsistent to go out of your way to shoehorn in some of the movie 'verse but then just go "meh, they'll get why a book about Luke Cage's baby raising problems and Bendis' favourite random characters ties to the franchise".
Give us a Whedonesque Avengers book full of action, and humour that is funny, and you might get new readers.
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Surely they could at least bring in one of the movies heroes, so there would be some sort of reference point for the alleged "new readers".
As it is, you have Wolverine, an X-man, and Spiderman, both in movies but not in THE avengers movie. Then there's a bunch of people no movie goer will know or care about.
They might as well call the book "Movie goers, £$%^ off!", because that is the effect it's likely to have.
I suppose that if Bendis is leaving, (and it seems to be taking a suspiciously long time for him to go), the book may well be cancelled or re-tooled to look like an actual Avengers team.
I suspect Secret Avengers to be nearly as bad for new readers, but at least there you have Hawkeye, and Cap to show it's an Avengers book.
It just seems weird to have all this publicity, all this attention from the enormously successful movie, and to willfully field this obscure unattractive (to movie goers) team under that name.
We know they are quite happy to piss off the comic book buying customers they already had, apparently they intend to continue that trend with any new ones the movie might bring in.
I can hear it now: "if you want Cap/Thor/Hulk/Iron man, you can always go watch the movie again, nobody can take that away from you"
But seriously, I think there are great chances that New Avengers will be completely retooled or canceled after Bendis leaves. Maybe he'll even take a few with him to whatever he's doing next. Though I have to say Luke Cage, X-Man or Luke Cage, Galactic Hero for Hire have strange rings to it. Appearently Wolverine has already left the building.
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"New", "Secret", "On Ice", makes no odds.
People go into the comic shop and look for "avengers".
Or worse, to the TPB store and pick up a "new Avengers" trade, flick through and think what?
They might as well buy a Green Lantern TPB, it has as much to do with the Avengers movie.
They've gone to all the trouble of setting up Fury and Coulson in 616 to match the movie.
They've changed Hawkeye's costume to match the movie.
If they were serious about making their books new (movie going) reader friendly they would get all their ducks in a row and put somebody from the movie in that team, at the very least.
It's not like it doesn't need the sales help the movie could bring, after all, it's getting outsold by Wonder Woman and Aquaman, for Set's sake. It's been stale and lacklustre for a while, why not spruce it up and maybe get some of the movie audience into the book?
There's always going to be confusion, that's why marketing is important and not just piling all the books on a shelf and calling it a day. Clearly demarcate which one you should pick up based on the movie. Clearly show this on the Marvel website, and on Amazon, etc...
Anyway if it's set in 616 it's going to be very different just because the characters are different and their relationships are drastically different.
That's why Avengers Assemble just puts the continuity on hold and (if it's good) will gently introduce new readers to the Avengers as they are in comics, rather than as they are in the movie.
Maybe they should start a new line like the Ultimate universe. That might be better actually.
Last edited by Wren; 05-09-2012 at 09:52 AM.