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    Default If Wonder Woman Was A Marvel Comic

    I often wonder how that would have gone. Assuming she was created at Atlas, I think it would have changed the tone of the Marvel Universe considerably, since she was likely a bigger star than any of the Atlas heroes.

    But also, I'm sorry, but it's pretty clear that the one weakness of early Marvel during Stan's time was the female characters. As bad as it got at DC, I kinda shudder to think of a Sue or Wasp-like Diana.

    However, then I think, I wonder what Chris Claremont in his prime could have done with Wonder Woman at Marvel.

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    ...The Earth-1 and -2 ( or their Marvel equivalents ) versions meet each other...and , immediately fight each other!!!!!!!!!!!

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    If Wonder Woman Was A Marvel Comic...
    ... she´d be the village bicycle.
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    Silver Age Marvel heroines were indeed pretty lame.

    Then again, I think that Superman had been one of the major factors holding Wonder Woman back for a long time. His status as THE hero at DC meant that no one else could truly be his equal, so Diana has had to play second fiddle to him. Though still true today, it's certainly LESS true than it used to be. We've seen DC make real efforts in recent years to elevate characters/franchises like Flash and Green Lantern. And of course, Batman's star power is irrepressible, now surpassing even Superman in many ways. Now that DC is more relaxed about such things, it's no surprise that we've seen Wonder Woman rise in prominence within the fictional DCU as well, even if it doesn't always translate to great sales.

    So without a real Superman-esque character at Marvel (meaning, a character that combines both incredible power AND iconography), I think Wonder Woman might have had a chance to flourish there in a way that she couldn't at DC.

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    ...What if , for 60s Marvel artists who have never even worked at DC much IIRC , either Joe Sinnott...or Larry Leiber...had drawn WW???????????

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    But she's not, and I'm glad! Marvel treets there females like $hit!

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    I think there could have been some cool stories, actually.
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    Had Wonder Woman been a Marvel character, I believe she might have undergone several costume changes at this point. I believe a number of her power/skill sets may have been altered by this time, then, perhaps, returned to a degree, similar to Rogue; by contrast, DC has portrayed Wonder Woman as less possible of defeat in recent years (e.g. since about 1999), diminishing the quality of her stories in the process. Had Wonder Woman been a Marvel character, I believe that Rogue and/or Ms. Marvel may possibly never have needed to exist, even though Rogue is quite a different type of character personality-wise.

    At Marvel, I believe a Wonder Woman comic book series may have involved quite a bit more sustained credible threat level from her villains and her villains would be much more developed. Dr. Psycho in particular would have been portrayed as a much more credible adversary, as they do a great job with psychics at Marvel.

    Some of those aspects may be resolved during JMS’s run, considering the bits of pieces of information I’ve seen between issues 601 and 602. Perhaps JMS may make at least a few temporary adjustments to Wonder Woman’s costume.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliseu Gouveia View Post
    ... she´d be the village bicycle.
    What exactly do you mean by the village bicycle?

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    Like, in the '40s? Hard to say. I'm inclined to believe things probably would have gone much the same way as they did for Miss America, the Blond Phantom and other Marvel leading ladies of the decade, which is to say that she probably would have fallen into obscurity as superheroes went out of vogue in the late '40s and early '50s. I imagine the fact that DC comics generally seemed to dominate in terms of sales and prominence in those days (though they didn't yet have Captain Marvel, who was probably the most popular comic book character in those days) probably helped Wonder Woman weather the '50s and make her into the enduring property she is today.

    (I suppose here, I could also mention the deal with the Marston estate that established that DC had to maintain the character in some form of constant circulation in order to retain ownership of it, but I really don't know enough about that. Like, for example, when it started)

    If she'd been created by '60s Marvel, well...at the very least, I reckon she probably would have been a very different character. In my mind, I can almost see a Stan Lee-scripted origin in the vein of Thor, about a human woman who is given powers by the Greek gods or something. And...yeah, I reckon there probably would have been little to nothing of the empowerment themes of Marston's original work, at least in an overt, intentional, textual (as opposed to meta-textual) way.

    But. You know. The '50s and '60s were also the decades that changed Wonder Woman from an explicit symbol of empowerment, strength and fellowship for girls, with a proto-feminist man for a love interest, into a more straight up superhero with a love interest who wanted her to give up the life so she would marry him, have his kids and cook his meals. So it was partly a zeitgeist thing in the industry, I think. Probably influenced, at least in part, by Wertham's Seduction of the Innocent scandal from the '50s (at least insofar as Wonder Woman is concerned).
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    She could have taken notes at the Avenger's meetings.

    IRON MAN: I've harnessed the ultimate power: Magnets!
    THOR: Verily! It is unto the Odin Power itself, forsooth.
    IRON MAN: With just this 80 pound electromagnet and these rollers that pop out of my boots, I can cover a mile by myself in just over 7 minutes
    WASP: How do you stop though? Do you glide in like a boat.
    ANTMAN: Quiet, girl, men are talking! Not just men, men of science!
    WASP: Hank, I can't hear you so when you're tiny! Tee hee.
    HULK: HULK HEARING BUZZING!
    IRON MAN: Hmm? A small side effect of being this close to my supersized electromagnetism is buzzing in the ears. And memory loss.
    WASP: Like my outfit, Hankypoo?
    ANTMAN: Jan! Not now! My God!
    HULK:RRRAAAHHRRR, NO BUZZ!
    IRON MAN: Have I told you guys about magnets yet?
    JARVIS: Wonder Woman, you seem awfully quiet this evening.
    WONDER WOMAN: Taking minutes is tedious. I'm just waiting until until we unfreeze Captain America later. I have a thing for guys in uniform.
    JARVIS: Tell me about it.
    IRON MAN: WW! Stop gossiping with the help. And I hope you're getting this all down. <hic>
    ANTMAN: If you're having trouble understanding, just un-focus and let the words flow from your ears through your female brain and in to your fingers. Don't make me build a robot to show you how it's done.
    HULK: BRAGHGHAHHGH!!!! SMASH BUGMAN!!!!!
    THOR: What hath happen to my mead?! Another jug missing this morn?!
    IRON MAN: No idea, anywaysh, I think magnents also makesh your eye go blurrillyurly. <burp> Shay, Womber Womans, ever been in a jet? And may I shay what beautiful bony armsh you have.
    WONDER WOMAN: I fly my own jet and you're groping the coat rack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dshipp17 View Post
    What exactly do you mean by the village bicycle?
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    I believe they were referring to this. Simply meaning she'd be a slut that slept around with everyone frequently.
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    I have double postingitis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tyburn View Post
    She could have taken notes at the Avenger's meetings.

    IRON MAN: I've harnessed the ultimate power: Magnets!
    THOR: Verily! It is unto the Odin Power itself, forsooth.
    IRON MAN: With just this 80 pound electromagnet and these rollers that pop out of my boots, I can cover a mile by myself in just over 7 minutes
    WASP: How do you stop though? Do you glide in like a boat.
    ANTMAN: Quiet, girl, men are talking! Not just men, men of science!
    WASP: Hank, I can't hear you so when you're tiny! Tee hee.
    HULK: HULK HEARING BUZZING!
    IRON MAN: Hmm? A small side effect of being this close to my supersized electromagnetism is buzzing in the ears. And memory loss.
    WASP: Like my outfit, Hankypoo?
    ANTMAN: Jan! Not now! My God!
    HULK:RRRAAAHHRRR, NO BUZZ!
    IRON MAN: Have I told you guys about magnets yet?
    JARVIS: Wonder Woman, you seem awfully quiet this evening.
    WONDER WOMAN: Taking minutes is tedious. I'm just waiting until until we unfreeze Captain America later. I have a thing for guys in uniform.
    JARVIS: Tell me about it.
    IRON MAN: WW! Stop gossiping with the help. And I hope you're getting this all down. <hic>
    ANTMAN: If you're having trouble understanding, just un-focus and let the words flow from your ears through your female brain and in to your fingers. Don't make me build a robot to show you how it's done.
    HULK: BRAGHGHAHHGH!!!! SMASH BUGMAN!!!!!
    THOR: What hath happen to my mead?! Another jug missing this morn?!
    IRON MAN: No idea, anywaysh, I think magnents also makesh your eye go blurrillyurly. <burp> Shay, Womber Womans, ever been in a jet? And may I shay what beautiful bony armsh you have.
    WONDER WOMAN: I fly my own jet and you're groping the coat rack.
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