The Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon Mega Thread

**Vakanai** · 04-13-2010, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by teddyeatsyourface

I don't understand this. They Cancelled Spectacular but they greenlit ANOTHER spiderman cartoon that's basically going to start all over with most of the same stuff? WTF

I keep saying this, there is obviously corporate thinking at work here. Sony produced the Spectacular cartoon. Disney/Marvel now owns the rights to do Spider-Man animated. But chances are they can't do that straight with the Spectacular cartoon without keeping Sony in the loop somehow or paying them. Thus, easier and cheaper to start fresh. Also gives them a chance to put their own spin on it.

From a corporate standpoint, there is nothing 'WTF' with this at all. It is only as fans looking on the surface that the illusion of 'WTF' comes into play, being as we don't give a damn about corporate, we just enjoy the cartoons, whereas corporate is rarely a fan of the cartoon, they're a fan of money. And like I said, this way is probably cheaper/easier/more financially sensible.

**Talisman** · 04-13-2010, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by DetectiveDupin

There is that show Ugly Americans too. It's enjoyable.

Ugh. He watches that show too.

**NickFury90** · 04-13-2010, 08:28 PM

BOO @ no more Spec Spidey. Easily the best Spidey cartoon yet.

YAY @ Nick motha****ing Fury(Yes, I believe that's the official name for the Sam Jackson version) and Iron Fist guest starring? HEEEEEEEELLZ YEAH

**Jeff Mclachlan** · 04-13-2010, 08:28 PM

The thing about this is---it's all business. Spectacular couldn't continue. It's Sony. It's the old guard. it sucks, but it's true. As soon as Disney bought Marvel it was dead. probably before.

Which is really sad, because Spectacular was the only Spider-Man show that could have stood head to head with the best of the Bruce Timm DC stuff and not been embarrassed. The last few episodes of season 2 especially, were really, really good.

So, you know. Maybe this new thing won't suck. Maybe. Who knows? All I ask is, if they can avoid the Bagley bug eyes in the Spider-Man design, that would be super nice. I prefer a Spider-man who doesn't look surprised all the time.

**Vakanai** · 04-13-2010, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by Jeff Mclachlan

The thing about this is---it's all business. Spectacular couldn't continue. It's Sony. It's the old guard. it sucks, but it's true. As soon as Disney bought Marvel it was dead. probably before.

Someone understands!

Which is really sad, because Spectacular was the only Spider-Man show that could have stood head to head with the best of the Bruce Timm DC stuff and not been embarrassed. The last few episodes of season 2 especially, were really, really good.

Was the only Spider-Man cartoon that can stand head to head with the Bruce Timm DC stuff so far.
Considering how good Spectacular was (though still far from perfect in my opinion [again, I skip the Venom arc when I watch it, too Saturday Morning-y even for me]) there's hope the future can be good as well. Spectacular set a high bar, if Disney and Marvel meets it or overtakes it, with both Spider-Man and perhaps other Marvel properties, then we'll be in a good place.

But then it might all go down the hill of everlasting suck from here.
It's a tough call.

**thwhtGuardian** · 04-13-2010, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by ViciousX

No, it was pretty much Lee/Ditko/Romita.

The over all tone of of the show, as well as many of the story lines were much closer to USM than the traditional spider-man.

**RDMacQ** · 04-13-2010, 09:01 PM

Originally Posted by thwhtGuardian

The over all tone of of the show, as well as many of the story lines were much closer to USM than the traditional spider-man.

Not really. The only things that I can think of were similar to USM was Peter being pals with Eddie Brock, and Kong being part of Flash's circle of friends. But you gotta find a way to get Venom in there somehow, and Flash's friends deserved to have more than just generic faces attached. While it did take several elements from USM, I'd say Spectacular hewed far more closely to the very early days of Stan Lee's Spider-Man than anything else.

**shades of eternity** · 04-13-2010, 09:08 PM

oooh

make the new series about a 20 something spiderman whose happily married to mary jane :P

**Regulus B.** · 04-13-2010, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by RDMacQ

Not really. The only things that I can think of were similar to USM was Peter being pals with Eddie Brock, and Kong being part of Flash's circle of friends. But you gotta find a way to get Venom in there somehow, and Flash's friends deserved to have more than just generic faces attached. While it did take several elements from USM, I'd say Spectacular hewed far more closely to the very early days of Stan Lee's Spider-Man than anything else.

Yeah, I think they picked a few elements, but most of the characters were closer to early comic versions (for instance, Harry being awkward immediately comes to mind).

**Vakanai** · 04-13-2010, 09:20 PM

Originally Posted by shades of eternity

oooh

make the new series about a 20 something spiderman whose happily married to mary jane :P

Too late, a deal has already been made with Mephisto to prevent this.

Thankfully...

**ViciousX** · 04-13-2010, 09:23 PM

Originally Posted by thwhtGuardian

The over all tone of of the show, as well as many of the story lines were much closer to USM than the traditional spider-man.

Not at all. And I was there in the studio a few times. Weisman is a friend, and I know a lot of other people on the show. Weisman's bible for the show was Lee/Ditko/Romita. Trust me, he had no intention, or desire, to replicate Ultimate.

**Jeff Mclachlan** · 04-13-2010, 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by Vakanai

Too late, a deal has already been made with Mephisto to prevent this.

Thankfully...

Yes. Thank you Mephisto. I've never considered myself a Satan worshipper before, but I have to say, you really came through on this one.

**Jeff Mclachlan** · 04-13-2010, 09:31 PM

Originally Posted by ViciousX

Not at all. And I was there in the studio a few times. Weisman is a friend, and I know a lot of other people on the show. Weisman's bible for the show was Lee/Ditko/Romita. Trust me, he had no intention, or desire, to replicate Ultimate.

Just watching the show, aside from throwing the current Bendis fanboys a bone by including Kong--Spectacular was mostly a love letter to the Lee/Ditko run, with, I'm sure, more Romita-goodness to come in the (sadly never to be) future.

That Gang War/opera episode was a classic. If this new show does anything close to that, I'll be a happy Spidey-fan.