The Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon Mega Thread

[Runguy]

So let's cancel the greatest Spider-Man TV anything of all time, and replace it with the exact same concept.

Does the world just hate Greg Weisman or something?

Well not exactly the same because Marvel will be able to use other characters that Spectacular (different studio) wasn't.

[Sano]

Really loved The Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon and will miss it.

Sorry if this has been posted before in this thread since I don't have time to read it in it's entirety, but there is a radio play from Weisman where the Gargoyles meet the Spectacular Spider-Man. At conventions he would get actors from the two shows and guests from the crowd to act the parts out. Weisman said it is just for fun and not official / canon, but just me I'm going to consider as the last story in Spectacular Spider-Man's world. Just so I can get Carnage in that universe heh.

Opening- http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=843
Act 1- http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=844
Act 2- http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=845
Final - http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=846

As far as the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon goes, I am looking forward to seeing Bagley's character designs in motion. Still I don't think Rollman, Yost or Kyle (if they work on it) can put on a better show than Weisman did. Heck I think Weisman can craft a story better than Bendis can too. Even so I love Spidey and hope they put on a great cartoon.

[ViciousX]

Just so I can get Carnage in that universe heh.

I never particularly liked Carnage, but I can dig him as a creation and minion of Demona (not THAT is a great villain).

[stillanerd]

Really loved The Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon and will miss it.

Sorry if this has been posted before in this thread since I don't have time to read it in it's entirety, but there is a radio play from Weisman where the Gargoyles meet the Spectacular Spider-Man. At conventions he would get actors from the two shows and guests from the crowd to act the parts out. Weisman said it is just for fun and not official / canon, but just me I'm going to consider it is as the last story in Spectacular Spider-Man's world. Just so I can get Carnage in that universe heh.

Opening- http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=843
Act 1- http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=844
Act 2- http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=845
Final - http://www.s8.org/gargoyles/askgreg/search.php?rid=846

As far as the Ultimate Spider-Man cartoon goes, I am looking forward to seeing Bagley's character designs in motion. Still I don't think Rollman, Yost or Kyle (if they work on it) can put on a better show than Weisman did. Heck I think Weisman can craft a story better than Bendis can too. Even so I love Spidey and hope they put on a great cartoon.

One of the things I liked about Weisman's "radio drama" is that, even though it's definitely non-canonical to both Gargoyles and Spectacular Spider-Man, there are definite indications of how he would have developed the characters of both series had these shows been allowed to continue. It's certainly evident when the script talks about how Brooklyn was time-displaced and came back with a family of his own, which was what Weisman has gone on record as saying were his original plans for the character as Gargoyles progressed and even tying it to a spin-off series (which even Brooklyn makes a self-referential nod towards in a dialogue exchange.)

Perhaps it's presuming too much, but I can't help but think there were little hints of what possible ideas about future Spectacular Spider-Man plans being planted in that script if he had continued the series.

[ViciousX]

One of the things I liked about Weisman's "radio drama" is that, even though it's definitely non-canonical to both Gargoyles and Spectacular Spider-Man, there are definite indications of how he would have developed the characters of both series had these shows been allowed to continue. It's certainly evident when the script talks about how Brooklyn was time-displaced and came back with a family of his own, which was what Weisman has gone on record as saying were his original plans for the character as Gargoyles progressed and even tying it to a spin-off series (which even Brooklyn makes a self-referential nod towards in a dialogue exchange.)

Perhaps it's presuming too much, but I can't help but think there are little hints of possible ideas about future Spectacular Spider-Man plans being planted in that script.

Actually, Brooklyn's time travels are canon now. We saw him leave and come back with new additions to the clan in the "Gargoyles" comic book, which Weisman was writing (and hopes to continue).

The Radio Play took place after "Final Curtain" of Spec Spidey, and "Phoenix" which would have been #12 of the "Gargoyles" comic, but can be found in the second graphic novel.

[stillanerd]

Actually, Brooklyn's time travels are canon now. We saw him leave and come back with new additions to the clan in the "Gargoyles" comic book, which Weisman was writing (and hopes to continue).

The Radio Play took place after "Final Curtain" of Spec Spidey, and "Phoenix" which would have been #12 of the "Gargoyles" comic, but can be found in the second graphic novel.

Ah, I didn't realize Weisman actually got around to doing the Brooklyn being time-displaced and coming back with his own clan development in the Gargoyles comic. Thanks for the update.

[Vakanai]

In short, Spectacular Spider-man could be considered the first victim of the Marvel/Disney thing.

...and now I'm gonna be in a hate Disney mood for a while.

Possibly, but it's not like Disney acted in any way another corporation wouldn't have.

Exactly.

Besides, Tom has nothing to do with the Animation side of things, so they're asking the wrong guy.

Besides, the real thing that killed the show was the orginal nlock it was made for (kids WB) ending. So really, it's the CW who is to blame or 4kids.

Also not surprising.
Spectacular had a lot working against it. Least we got some good stuff while we can.
Here's to Ultimate. Hope it does well. If it learns from the last one's successes and mistakes, it could do very well (mistake=first Venom arc, success=mostly everything else).
A better looking art style would be cool too. It grew on me, but not terribly so.

[KCJ506]

I don't mind getting an USM cartoon, I just don't like that we lost SSM in order to get it.

[Web_Spinner]

the ultimate universe/take on charcyers and villains is kind of annoying.

What I loved so much about Spectacular Spider-man was that it tapped into the Silver age Spidey comics that Lee and Ditko and Romita created.

Sigh, I'm also sick of seeing the Green Goblin look like "Hulk-lite."

Will still give it a chance, but I'll never be able to really enjoying it because I never liked the Ultimate take on most of Spidey's villains.

[Vakanai]

I don't mind getting an USM cartoon, I just don't like that we lost SSM in order to get it.

We didn't lose SSM in order to get USM.
We lost SSM because Sony lost the rights to make it. That simple.

Creativity had nothing to do with any of it. Nor did ratings or good feelings. Nor did a desire for USM.
Corporate business stuff, that is the cause.

[DKR]

We didn't lose SSM in order to get USM.
We lost SSM because Sony lost the rights to make it. That simple.

Marvel could have continued it if they wanted to.

[Fatguy]

IMO, the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon replaced Batman: The Animated Series as the best comic cartoon ever. It was just fantastic. I actually liked that cartoon world better than the source material, which is definitely saying something.

[Alan2099]

Marvel could have continued it if they wanted to.

Not really. While Marvel owns the characters, those particular likenesses designed for the animated series would still be considered property of SONY and couldn't be used without payment. I'm not sure about the plots and voice actors.

I remember reading about those issues when they launched Ghostbusters Extreme. Even though they had the rights to the Ghostbusters, they couldn't use the designs created for the Real Ghostbusters because it was by a different company.

[KCJ506]

I wonder if the reboot weren't gonna be based off USM or if there was no reboot, if this would still happen. Because I can't help wondering if that's part of the reason.

[Vakanai]

Marvel could have continued it if they wanted to.

Not without paying Sony. And either Marvel or Disney doesn't want to do that or feel it is in their best interest.

I wonder if the reboot weren't gonna be based off USM or if there was no reboot, if this would still happen. Because I can't help wondering if that's part of the reason.

Are you asking if this is because of the film franchise rebooting? If so, my guess would be no. The new cartoon franchise seems more to do with corporate differences between Marvel/Disney and Sony.