Colossus, the Lovable Russian Commie Appreciation

[Fluffyblade]

Actually, you can probably cross off Kitty and Logan based on recent events. Seems like the only friend Pete has left is Ororo.

Actually considering what happened in adjectiveless X-men I don't think he'd tell Storm either. I can see him telling Scott though.

[Robodojo]

Actually considering what happened in adjectiveless X-men I don't think he'd tell Storm either. I can see him telling Scott though.

Except that the last time Peter sees Ororo (in the cave), he doesn't seem to be holding anything against her.

And I don't know about Scott. I think Pete was pretty horrified with what went down while he was a member of the P5 and under Scott's command. Once he learns that Scott killed Prof X, I don't think Peter will want anything to do with Scott anymore.

[Fluffyblade]

Except that the last time Peter sees Ororo (in the cave), he doesn't seem to be holding anything against her.

And I don't know about Scott. I think Pete was pretty horrified with what went down while he was a member of the P5 and under Scott's command. Once he learns that Scott killed Prof X, I don't think Peter will want anything to do with Scott anymore.

Among others, Peter wanted to kill Professor X while under the influence of the Phoenix force, so I don't see him holding anything against Scott.

Peter may not have held anything against Storm but he certainly wasn't anything close to friendly with her either.

[Rickbarry]

Among others, Peter wanted to kill Professor X while under the influence of the Phoenix force, so I don't see him holding anything against Scott.

Peter may not have held anything against Storm but he certainly wasn't anything close to friendly with her either.

When did Piotr ever give the inclination that he wanted to kill Xavier? Hell he felt bad punching Spiderman in the face.

[Robodojo]

Peter may not have held anything against Storm but he certainly wasn't anything close to friendly with her either.

He was hiding out in a torchlit cave, his life in utter ruin, sculpting and then smashing his sister's face, and then telling Storm he ought to kill Illyana. That's a pretty dark place to be in. If he had acted overly friendly to anyone in that moment, it wouldn't have made much sense from a storytelling perspective.

And I have to agree with Rick, I don't recall an instance where P5 Peter expressed an interest in harming the professor.

[imperial90]

Except that the last time Peter sees Ororo (in the cave), he doesn't seem to be holding anything against her.

And I don't know about Scott. I think Pete was pretty horrified with what went down while he was a member of the P5 and under Scott's command. Once he learns that Scott killed Prof X, I don't think Peter will want anything to do with Scott anymore.

I don't see why myself, if anything he should empathize with Scott more then most due to his experience being the play thing of both Cytorrak and the Phoenix. I can easily see him being on the side that doesn't see it as Scott's fault.

[Fluffyblade]

When did Piotr ever give the inclination that he wanted to kill Xavier? Hell he felt bad punching Spiderman in the face.

It's in UXM 18, Peter explains how deep inside he wanted to kill everyone.

I don't see why myself, if anything he should empathize with Scott more then most due to his experience being the play thing of both Cytorrak and the Phoenix. I can easily see him being on the side that doesn't see it as Scott's fault.

Pretty much what I'm thinking.

[Robodojo]

It's in UXM 18, Peter explains how deep inside he wanted to kill everyone.

My interpretation is this is Cyttorak's influence on Peter, not the Phoenix. He was talking like a homicidal maniac prior to receiving the Phoenix force.

I don't see why myself, if anything he should empathize with Scott more then most due to his experience being the play thing of both Cytorrak and the Phoenix. I can easily see him being on the side that doesn't see it as Scott's fault.

Peter is the type to feel personal responsibility even when his own guilt is a dubious thing. I don't see him letting Scott off the hook so easily. And Scott's attitude after the fact is especially problematic, since he tried to rationalize his actions with an ends justifying the means approach. Has Colossus ever been an ends justifying the means type of guy?

[Fluffyblade]

My interpretation is this is Cyttorak's influence on Peter, not the Phoenix. He was talking like a homicidal maniac prior to receiving the Phoenix force.

I really don't think that matters. The point is that during AvX they both did abominable things(not my opinion but likely Peter's) for him to be against Scott now doesn't make sense. Especially since apparently they are both of the opinion that fighting against the government is in the best interest of mutantkind.

[Rickbarry]

I really don't think that matters. The point is that during AvX they both did abominable things(not my opinion but likely Peter's) for him to be against Scott now doesn't make sense. Especially since apparently they are both of the opinion that fighting against the government is in the best interest of mutantkind.

Piotr was under the influence of Cyttorak. He stated that The Phoenix gave him hope that he could balance himself, but Cyttorak's influence only gave him a wider palate. I think Piotr holds people accountable for their actions as much as he lets his own weigh heavily on himself. Robo pretty much stated this earlier.

We're not sure what the reason for Cable assembling his team actually is at this point. It could very well be unrelated to Cyclops and his little rogue faction.

[Fluffyblade]

Piotr was under the influence of Cyttorak. He stated that The Phoenix gave him hope that he could balance himself, but Cyttorak's influence only gave him a wider palate. I think Piotr holds people accountable for their actions as much as he lets his own weigh heavily on himself. Robo pretty much stated this earlier.

We're not sure what the reason for Cable assembling his team actually is at this point. It could very well be unrelated to Cyclops and his little rogue faction.

I suppose that's true enough. I just have a hard time seeing him being against Cyclops in all of this, only time will tell I suppose.

I imagine Cable's team has nothing to do with Cyclops' X-men, my point is that they share the same philosophy that fighting against the government is what's best for mutantkind.

[steve2275]

i think something bad is gonna happen
CABLE AND X-FORCE #4
DENNIS HOPELESS (W) • SALVADOR LARROCA (A/C)
Variant Cover by SIMONE BIANCHI
• Witness the massacre that makes Cable and X-Force criminals.
• They can’t go back from here…
32 PGS./Parental Advisory …$3.99

[Rickbarry]

Damn. Pretty sweet art.

[Robodojo]

However, I could see a situation where Colossus does appear from the start of the series and still have the solicitation copy by true. Peter could be with Cable from the beginning, but his changing powers and the circumstances that led him to hook up with X-Force simply aren't revealed until issue 3. Wishful thinking perhaps, but I prefer this outcome to the alternative.

Apparently this will actually be the case. Check out Marvel's Next Big Thing: Cable and X-Force for the details.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=42217

[J/O/J/O]

Apparently this will actually be the case. Check out Marvel's Next Big Thing: Cable and X-Force for the details.

http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=42217

Art looks great.Larocca is finding a happy medium between his old style and his former realistic style which is refreshing.
As for Colossus he is clearly angry at Cable,probably because of the murders they have now been linked too.
While I love Cable and Forge,Colossus is the character I am most interested in this series.