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    With the recent, unfortunate passing of Joe Kubert and Carmine Infantino, I believe Steve Ditko is now the greatest living comic artist legend. Spider-Man is the most iconic character amongst those who's artistic creator still survives. The only other living comic artist IMO who might challenge this would be Robert Crumb

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    ^Hmmm... you might be right. There are a few people who I feel will be considered legends in a decade or two (for legendary status needs a certain time period to take). As far as American comics living legends at the moment... Crumb, Ditko, maybe Jack Davis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ish Kabbible View Post
    With the recent, unfortunate passing of Joe Kubert and Carmine Infantino, I believe Steve Ditko is now the greatest living comic artist legend. Spider-Man is the most iconic character amongst those who's artistic creator still survives. The only other living comic artist IMO who might challenge this would be Robert Crumb

    What's your opinion?
    He's not a superhero guy, but Feldstein. . .still with us. And a giant.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gryphon View Post
    what was that about?

    and ditko's strength was as a plotter and artist. much like kirby, he wasnt that strong at scripting
    A common misconception; few are stronger than Kirby at scripting. I'm not familiar enough with Ditko's work to put an opinion about his scripting here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T GUy View Post
    A common misconception; few are stronger than Kirby at scripting. I'm not familiar enough with Ditko's work to put an opinion about his scripting here.
    Ive read Kirby and lee comics and then Kirby solo comics immediately after. There is a difference in script quality. the art is still amazing and plots are good but the script is not as good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gryphon View Post
    Ive read Kirby and lee comics and then Kirby solo comics immediately after. There is a difference in script quality. the art is still amazing and plots are good but the script is not as good.
    Your mixing up scripting and dialoguing. Kirby may not have had Lee's ear for snappy banter, but was great at plotting, pacing, defining and revealing characters through action... And Ditko was almost as good.
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    [QUOTE=Ish Kabbible;17010351]With the recent, unfortunate passing of Joe Kubert and Carmine Infantino, I believe Steve Ditko is now the greatest living comic artist legend.

    Not as old and perhaps not as legendary, but still alive and kicking; Neal Adams!

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    Love Ditko. I haven't read his ROM work. The work that still pulls at my heart strings is SHADE. I love the style and look of that book.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikaider View Post
    Love Ditko. I haven't read his ROM work. The work that still pulls at my heart strings is SHADE. I love the style and look of that book.

    I still need to pick up the ditko omnibus that has shade in it.
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    Creepy Presents Steve Ditko is my most anticipated comic collection of the year. Those ink-wash pages look incredible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angilas-Man View Post
    Creepy Presents Steve Ditko is my most anticipated comic collection of the year. Those ink-wash pages look incredible.
    Didn't know this was coming out. Tempting...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MDG View Post
    Your mixing up scripting and dialoguing. Kirby may not have had Lee's ear for snappy banter, but was great at plotting, pacing, defining and revealing characters through action... And Ditko was almost as good.
    I disagree with this assessment. Kirby's dialogue and his CAPTIONS are definitely Old School in that he was influenced by the writers he probably grew up reading: Dickens, Stevenson, E.R.B and the sci-fi pulp writers of that period. On the other hand, I've read a LOT of Ditko's stuff and while I enjoy it, his best work was produced when someone else wrote the script, including JOE GILL! I sometimes wonder if English was Steve's first language; in some of the quotes I've seen by him, he has a way of phrasing which is reflected in his characters' dialogue. THE MOCKER was beautifully drawn but it was a chore to read. So many characters seemed to be speaking in "shorthand". And there was another story where a given character spoke almost entirely in acronyms! I love Steve's plots and artwork but Kirby is a genre unto himself.

    I've been thinking about this lately, and while I respect Ditko's work, if we're talking about the greatest cartoonist who's still working--for me there's no contest: It's PETER BAGGE! I've read Crumb's stuff from his hey-day and while it was funny and oft-times INFURIATING, I never felt that he could tell an actual story. Beto Hernandez WAS great but he hasn't shown me anything exceptional since LUBA and GENERATION X in the 90s! the same for Frank Miller, Dan Clowes and Adrian Tomine.

    But Bagge? CONSISTENTLY, this guy has shown up to kick butt and take names!

    THE BRADLEYS, the HATE series, STUDS KIRBY, APOCALYPSE NERD and OTHER LIVES, are bittersweet, angry, satirical, sometimes poignant and always FUNNY little diamonds-in-the rough that have a certain polish! Oh, did I mention that he also draws very well?
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    Was watching Justice League Unlimited on Netflix (for the 1st time, ton's of fun!;). There's this episode when Darkseid's invading the Earth and a call's made for ALL the JL members, including the reserves, to join the party. At one point there's a clip featuring Hawk & Dove, The Creeper, The Question, & Capt. Atom in action. Talk about yr cool fanboy moments!;)

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    Quote Originally Posted by edhopper View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kikaider View Post
    Love Ditko. I haven't read his ROM work. The work that still pulls at my heart strings is SHADE. I love the style and look of that book.

    That's one of my favorite comic book stories ever. I loved it. In turn, I really abhor Milligan's version. I find it absurd that DC would rather always go back to it, than to bring back Ditko's awsome version (except for Ostrander in SS and Alan Davis in The Nail, of course). I's a shame that the Ditko Omnibus is really out of my price range, but I'd love for DC to riprint the Shade saga in a more affordable format. A TPB would be perfect.

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