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    Quote Originally Posted by wildclaw View Post
    The one time he fought he spent too much time talking about what he would do to the guy's body after he killed him, and what makes it worse he causes himself to die by purposely letting him self get cut and subsequently getting an infection. Badass, not in my eyes.
    The way he handled the fight was all about dissing that guy. He let the guy give him a minor cut, and then spent some time slowly explaining what he was going to do to him all the while dodging what would have been killing blows if they connected. He was showing everyone they couldn't killl him even if he wasn't fighting back properly. It showed him to be on a completely different level from everyone else, seemed pretty badass to me.

    And judging from the scars on him, infected wounds had never been an issue for him, he sure had plenty of wounds before. He probably believed his own hype a little too much, and having a vengeful witch messing with him on purpose killed him in the end when he might have just had a new scar if he'd let it go untreated.
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    Sometimes, a story goes in a different direction to what you would have done if you'd been the writer.
    The only way to prevent that is to write your own story.

    Then sit back and watch a bunch of people on the internet tell you how badly THEY think you botched the death of a comparatively minor character, and that all the rest of your hard work doesn't matter because it doesn't match the fan-fic they were writing in their head.

    Gimme a call when HBO gets back to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forseti View Post
    The way he handled the fight was all about dissing that guy. He let the guy give him a minor cut, and then spent some time slowly explaining what he was going to do to him all the while dodging what would have been killing blows if they connected. He was showing everyone they couldn't killl him even if he wasn't fighting back properly. It showed him to be on a completely different level from everyone else, seemed pretty badass to me.

    And judging from the scars on him, infected wounds had never been an issue for him before, he sure had plenty of wounds before. He probably believed his own hype a little too much, and having a vengeful witch messing with him on purpose was just too much.
    The execution of the scene could have been done a lot better than that. It makes look him foolish in combat. Come on, walking in to a bladed weapon and flexing your muscles to maximize the damage to your own body? It didn't work for me.

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    That's a great idea! I assume you'll be willing to pay to have these two extra episodes per year made?

    Man, I bet the executives at HBO are smacking themselves on the forehead right now. "Of course! We should just make more episodes! Why the hell didn't we think of that?"
    No, I wouldn't pay extra. Why is this show different True Blood, Boardwalk Empire, Sopranos etc. 12-13 eps is cable standard, and this show could have used at least 11. If it stays at 10 eps a season more scenes will be more likely to be cut or changed to accommodate the season length.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pól Rua View Post
    Sometimes, a story goes in a different direction to what you would have done if you'd been the writer.
    The only way to prevent that is to write your own story.

    Then sit back and watch a bunch of people on the internet tell you how badly THEY think you botched the death of a comparatively minor character, and that all the rest of your hard work doesn't matter because it doesn't match the fan-fic they were writing in their head.

    Gimme a call when HBO gets back to you.
    This is a dumb comment.

    I don't know what you're getting at because the story did go in the direction I liked, they just glossed over the details/or didn't really execute things as best they could at some points due to time or whatever reason

    I spoke my mind about the 1 thing on this show I didn't like and you all are trying to get on my case. Like I said before, no show I like to watch is perfect, and I'm going to say I feel could have been done better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildclaw View Post
    No, I wouldn't pay extra. Why is this show different True Blood, Boardwalk Empire, Sopranos etc.
    It costs probably twenty times more to make per episode, for one thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildclaw View Post
    I spoke my mind about the 1 thing on this show I didn't like and you all are trying to get on my case. Like I said before, no show I like to watch is perfect, and I'm going to say I feel could have been done more like I would have done it.
    Fixed it for you.
    Seriously, nothing is ever going to conform 100% to the imaginary movie you have in your head. You didn't like it, fair enough, but in the end, you have to decide whether it's enough to ruin something for you or something you can deal with because, honestly, it's not REALLY that important.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thwhtGuardian View Post
    It's really no more realistic, Eddie lifts Roger by his neck and there is no strain in his muscles and his ability to lift him with such ease would seem to grant him super human strength. He gets dragged around by the hand cuffs and it's clear he's just jumping around and flailing his arms...but you don't care because the story is good so you're engrossed in the moment.

    It's the same here, it's clear there are no dragons there as she doesn't wince as their claws dig into her skin and her movement is totally unhindered by their weight on her body, but it doesn't matter because the scene has real emotional resonance.

    The horsemen leaving was no real surprise, they were ready to scatter once he fell off his horse after all. They're probably following the guy who said he'd kill Dany.
    Roger Rabbit was all hand drawn animation not CGI right?

    Also brand new to Game of Thrones, caught them all in a marathon viewing last weekend. Loving it. I'm going to have to re-watch because I think I've missed some subtle things.

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    Ease up folks. Other than him thinking Drogo wasn't accurately presented as the badass he was reputed to be and a desire to see longer seasons (who wouldn't want that?), wildclaw likes the show. It's a couple of minor complaints, nothing worth getting bothered or snarky about. The guy's entitled to his opinion.
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    I for one was hoping for less traditional dragons.
    But oh well.
    Maybe like...a WoW protodrake!

    Yeah, looks like a dragon with down syndrome, win!
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    I thought people generally understood that Drogo's posturing in his little duel for leadership in Episode 8 was because that's what's expected from his people and how they do things, not because he's stupid. His display of bravado in allowing himself to be cut is perfectly in line with what we see of the Dothraki culture. Yeah, by modern standards it's not the most tactically sound move, but by the standards of Dothraki politics it's absolutely the right move to utterly humiliate and crush your opponent after placing yourself at a "disadvantage" (and then further doing so by discarding your weapons). It just reinforces the notion that you're the baddest of the bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jmacq1 View Post
    I thought people generally understood that Drogo's posturing in his little duel for leadership in Episode 8 was because that's what's expected from his people and how they do things, not because he's stupid. His display of bravado in allowing himself to be cut is perfectly in line with what we see of the Dothraki culture. Yeah, by modern standards it's not the most tactically sound move, but by the standards of Dothraki politics it's absolutely the right move to utterly humiliate and crush your opponent after placing yourself at a "disadvantage" (and then further doing so by discarding your weapons). It just reinforces the notion that you're the baddest of the bad.
    The Dothraki that cut him, his sword was probably covered in horse manure anyway.

    Then the "witch" rubs some more crap in the wound.

    I really hope viewers who have not read the book and are not nerds can embrace the fantasy elements.

    The Zombies, could be explained away with some kind of plant that lives north of the wall. Eat it and it turns you into a zombie like creature.

    The Wolves are just bad ass. No real fantasy element there to the outside viewer.

    The Witch, could really just be a doctor and people don't understand so they call her a witch.

    Dragons are a whole other ball of wax. Even to a new viewer all the talk of Dragons could have just been a colorful way of referring to the power of House Targaryan and not actually real dragons. Even the Skull Arya hid in could have been a sculpture.

    Now that There Be Dragons, will the Non Nerd viewer be ready for the Fantastic, or will they watch the Borgias?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac Danny View Post
    I really hope viewers who have not read the book and are not nerds can embrace the fantasy elements.

    The Zombies, could be explained away with some kind of plant that lives north of the wall. Eat it and it turns you into a zombie like creature.

    The Wolves are just bad ass. No real fantasy element there to the outside viewer.

    The Witch, could really just be a doctor and people don't understand so they call her a witch.

    Dragons are a whole other ball of wax. Even to a new viewer all the talk of Dragons could have just been a colorful way of referring to the power of House Targaryan and not actually real dragons. Even the Skull Arya hid in could have been a sculpture.

    Now that There Be Dragons, will the Non Nerd viewer be ready for the Fantastic, or will they watch the Borgias?
    I don't think that will be a problem, if any viewer has watched this show all the way through, they would probably be excited now to see how dragons and zombies are going to create bigger problems for everyone fighting for the throne. I'm not a big fantasy guy, and I really want to see how everyone reacts when they find out Dany has three live dragons on her side.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mac Danny View Post
    Now that There Be Dragons, will the Non Nerd viewer be ready for the Fantastic, or will they watch the Borgias?
    I think it's firmly established that the politics and intrigue are the stars of the show and the fantasy elements are window dressing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wildclaw View Post
    I don't think that will be a problem, if any viewer has watched this show all the way through, they would probably be excited now to see how dragons and zombies are going to create bigger problems for everyone fighting for the throne. I'm not a big fantasy guy, and I really want to see how everyone reacts when they find out Dany has three live dragons on her side.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dreadstar View Post
    I think it's firmly established that the politics and intrigue are the stars of the show and the fantasy elements are window dressing.
    I hope so. I hope it doesn't overshadow the politics and intrigue. I am really looking forward to a possible Littlefinger / Varys / Tyrion verbal tennis. Oh Please don't let me down on this.
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    what's the problem exactly? the show would benefit if it had more episodes and who knows, they may get one or two more for the 2nd season. saying so shouldn't be an issue

    They also could have done a better job of informing the audience about a few things. one example that i saw pop up quite a bit was the question of how Robb got pass/outmaneuvered Tywin and captured Jaime. Some extra dialogue could have answered that question for those that didn't read the books.

    As for the fights and battles, i don't mind that they were skipped for this season for the most part, but next season, and possibly a third, it won't be so easy to skip over some really important ones.

    next season, and possibly a third, will be a real test on their budget

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    The fantasy elements never overshadow the politics and characters.

    I still find it ridiculous that people seem to be trying to come up with ways to "rationalize" the supernatural elements for a "fantasy unfriendly" audience. How is chewing loco weed to become a zombie any more "real" than just being a zombie?

    Last time I checked, we still lived in a world where the Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, Harry Potter, and plenty of other "fantastic" franchises have pulled in billions upon billions in dollars, and not just from kids.

    Kudos to HBO for not assuming that the audience is a bunch of pedantic morons that can't handle any fantasy in what's explicitly billed as a fantasy series.

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