Game of Thrones

[Kid Kamikaze10]

In my mind, Joffery has made his second mistake. Killing Ned rather than letting him go into exile sends a clear message about how unstable he is. Whiel his mom probably wouldnt do anything, there are plenty of others (like Little Finger) who probably started planning assassination attempts the minute Joffery asked for Ned's head.

That kid ain't staying king for very long.

Oh, it was really clear that the kid made a mistake.

On stage, everyone but him and the soldiers were shocked, freaking out, and/or yelling for him to stop.

Ned was meant for the Wall. Joffery wanted to show off. And now, there's no way of stopping a massive war from happening.

[Dreadstar]

In my mind, Joffery has made his second mistake. Killing Ned rather than letting him go into exile sends a clear message about how unstable he is.

He's a bit of a sadist. And I think I can say this without spoilers, he gets more sadistic as the story goes along.

[XPac]

In my mind, Joffery has made his second mistake. Killing Ned rather than letting him go into exile sends a clear message about how unstable he is. Whiel his mom probably wouldnt do anything, there are plenty of others (like Little Finger) who probably started planning assassination attempts the minute Joffery asked for Ned's head.

That kid ain't staying king for very long.

Yeah. The smart thing to do would have been to quietly assasinate him later. Publically executing him in this manner would only create enemies and rush the inevitable war that is to come.

[LordEd1976]

Joffery just made war unavoidable. Hopefully for Jaime's sake, Robb and Lady Stark don't go completely nuts when the news about Ned's death reaches them.

And it wouldnt surprise me at all if the Stark's reach the gates of King's Landing and several people (like Little Finger, the eunuch, and that guy Joffery fired) either defect or choose to do nothing as Robb and company go to have a talk with the "king"

[Chiasm]

Apparently a lot of fans of the TV show (who obviously had never read the book) are threatening to leave the show because they dared kill Ned. I wonder how they'll feel in subsequent seasons when certain other characters get killed.

Its been a long time since I read the books so one question for those who have. I remember the pivotal turn of events involving spoilers:

Theon and what he does but I thought it was a book one story I'm talking when he betrays Winterfell and helps the invaders conquer it.

end of spoilers When does it happen - book two or three.

[ImmortalIronFist]

Apparently a lot of fans of the TV show (who obviously had never read the book) are threatening to leave the show because they dared kill Ned. I wonder how they'll feel in subsequent seasons when certain other characters get killed.

Its been a long time since I read the books so one question for those who have. I remember the pivotal turn of events involving spoilers:

Theon and what he does but I thought it was a book one story I'm talking when he betrays Winterfell and helps the invaders conquer it.

end of spoilers When does it happen - book two or three.

I don't think that actually happens until book 3

[Dr. Ghost]

Apparently a lot of fans of the TV show (who obviously had never read the book) are threatening to leave the show because they dared kill Ned. I wonder how they'll feel in subsequent seasons when certain other characters get killed.

Its been a long time since I read the books so one question for those who have. I remember the pivotal turn of events involving spoilers:

Theon and what he does but I thought it was a book one story I'm talking when he betrays Winterfell and helps the invaders conquer it.

end of spoilers When does it happen - book two or three.

Book two:
spoilers:

Theon is taken prisoner by Reek aka Ramsay Snow who betrayed him. Then, Bran & Co. go their separate ways as Bran thinks that Winterfell is "just broken" like himself. Then the book ends, I believe.

end of spoilers

[adamthered]

So, how many of us are still watching after all the fans abandoned the show after Lady was kill, then abandoned the show after the horse decap, and have now abandoned the show with Ned's death? :D

[Omega Alpha]

Great episode, and despite being the same thing that happened in the book (I unfortunately couldn't avoid spoilers on this one, not by my own choice), the ending is still one of the most ballsy things ever done on TV.

One question: was Littlefinger trying to stop the execution too when Cersei and Sansa were? I don't remember noticing him.

Also, I thought the scene with Jon and the old guy was great. But while I can understand a second son of the king abandoning everything, he actually could have been king himself? I suppose his story is revisited somewhere later in the books, or at least I hope so.

Apparently a lot of fans of the TV show (who obviously had never read the book) are threatening to leave the show because they dared kill Ned. I wonder how they'll feel in subsequent seasons when certain other characters get killed.

I don't think Ned's case is the same, to be fair. He was the leading character, or at least closer to it as anyone (of course, nothing like Walter White or Dexter, cases in which the show couldn't exist without them), and was advertised as the main star, played by the most famous actor on the ensemble. I won't be surprised if ratings drop. Even The Wire (not a ratings champion, exactly) had McNulty becoming a very minor character, but didn't killed him.

[Omega Alpha]

Oh, and I have a theory on who's Jon's mother. I don't know if book readers will think it's completely wrong, but I think it's Lyanna (sp), Ned's sister. And Ned isn't the father.

From what I understood, the Mad King killed Stark's father and brother, and also kidnapped Lyanna, right? So, while she was held captive, she was raped by someone (either the king himself or his son), and got pregnant. She died of childbirth or complications from it, and asked Ned to raise him. He said he was his own because having Targaryen blood means Jon would become a target.

What do you think?

[Deathstroke]

Joffery just made war unavoidable. Hopefully for Jaime's sake, Robb and Lady Stark don't go completely nuts when the news about Ned's death reaches them.

And it wouldnt surprise me at all if the Stark's reach the gates of King's Landing and several people (like Little Finger, the eunuch, and that guy Joffery fired) either defect or choose to do nothing as Robb and company go to have a talk with the "king"

I think if that happened, Littlefinger would be stupid to defect. If the Starks don't know he was intimately involved in Ned's arrest, someone like the guy Joffrey fired, will tell them and they won't hesitate to kill him.

And neither would I. If I was Robb, everyone involved with the death of Ned Stark would now be targeted for death.

[Eliseu Gouveia]

Oh, and I have a theory on who's Jon's mother. I don't know if book readers will think it's completely wrong, but I think it's Lyanna (sp), Ned's sister. And Ned isn't the father.

From what I understood, the Mad King killed Stark's father and brother, and also kidnapped Lyanna, right? So, while she was held captive, she was raped by someone (either the king himself or his son), and got pregnant. She died of childbirth or complications from it, and asked Ned to raise him. He said he was his own because having Targaryen blood means Jon would become a target.

What do you think?

Only prob?
Jon lacks the Targaryans´white hair.

[XPac]

I think if that happened, Littlefinger would be stupid to defect. If the Starks don't know he was intimately involved in Ned's arrest, someone like the guy Joffrey fired, will tell them and they won't hesitate to kill him.

And neither would I. If I was Robb, everyone involved with the death of Ned Stark would now be targeted for death.

Littlefinger I think is one to REALLY watch out for on this show. Because he seems to be playing all sides... and he's doing it while basically flying below everyone's radar.

If down the road he's got some sort of big power play, I doubt anyone will see it coming since everyone else is too busy clubbing the hell out of each other.

[Jack]

I really liked Aemon's monologue.

[Inkthinker]

Those of us who read the books have been sitting on our hands for a whole season waiting for that moment. Believe me, in the novels it was just as much of a WTF to realize that this isn't Ned's story after all, at least not anymore. And it lets you know that in this series, nobody is "safe", especially not just because they're a main character.

I'm hoping that the general community out there can keep holding off from spoiling things for the TV fans, 'cause we got a ways to go. :D

Honestly, I'm surprised more people didn't figure that Ned was doomed because he was being played by a fairly high-profile actor like Sean Bean. That man wants to do other things, I'm sure, so a single season is all he'd likely want to sign up for.