On a second read I rather enjoyed it, I feel if Martin had given more heads up that this book would not feature POV's of some of the most popular characters, there would be less scorn for it.
I personally loved all the info we got out of the Ironmen and Dorne chapters, two area's of Westeros we have had very little info about, especially since those regions are so different from the others. Not to mention the chapters we got from a certain Queen.
But the focus of the overarching series isn't about the threat of the Others (yet). It's mostly about the machinations and struggles of the four families represented in the opening title (the Baratheons, the Lannisters, the Starks and the Targaryeans... or the Stag, the Lion, the Wolf and the Dragon, respectively) and the various other groups that are allied to them. Lots of backstabbing and assassination and open murder and betrayal twists, that's what the story is about mostly.
But occasionally (mostly in Jon Snow portions) we are reminded that a greater threat lies beyond the Wall, gathering strength for the winter to come.
People hate on book 4 because it had almost no Jon, Dany or Tyrion in it... and they're probably the most popular characters in the series. Especially considering what happened with Tyrion at the end of the third book, making the fans wait for a decade and through an entire other book to rejoin him in the wake of those events was pretty cruel, it's no surprise that there was backlash.
I beleive Martin announced up front that Feast for Crows was originaly one book, but it was so big he split it into 2 that take place at roughly the same time while focusing on different characters.
And, in his defense, doing my best to not include spoilers...um...things did happen in the last book. And a lot of things are going to happen in the next book, and there are a huge amount of characters.
As someone who sat through the majority of the Wheel of Time series, hearing a Martin book called boring or pointless makes me lol quite a bit.
As a personal view, what goes on with Dany pretty much deserves its own damn book, it could form it's own series, and i would have been incredibly upset if it was sandwiched into Feast.
Nothing's gonna happen without a warning
Also why does the castle have those step thingies on the wall? look like rock climbing type steps i've never heard of a castle having those before.
Last edited by Conn Seanery; 04-20-2011 at 05:40 AM. Reason: spoilers
Aww man, you need a subscription to watch this on hbo.com. If I had a subscription to HBO, I wouldn't need to watch it online.
Free your soul and let it fly....
It's not profitable if someones snatching it from a torrent somewhere.
And some people can't afford HBO as much as they would like too so they have to get it from other ways like for instance i watched a bunch of Entourage from renting Dvd's from blockbuster.
there's also Netflix and other such stuff.
I think the number of books is up in the air ... (said skeptically)
But my disappointment has faded and now I just hope to find out what happens to wrap the thing up.
Just want to remind people that have read the books not to post book spoilers here, not without using spoil tags at least. Let's let people who haven't read the books have the chance to get into the story fresh and be surprised.
Also, be careful with the coy book reader spoilers. If someone (who hasn't read the books) wonders about something and you chime in with something to the effect of "oh, just wait", that in and of itself can be a spoiler.
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But that's beside the point...at present, the only way to watch the show legitimately (at least in the US) is to subscribe to HBO or know someone who's subscribed. Which means the only "cheaper alternative" at this point is piracy. I didn't get the impression you were suggesting "Hey, just wait a couple years and it'll be on Amazon/wait a few months and it'll be on DVD." Those are perfectly legit means of watching the show...but won't be available for a few months, at the very least.
I don't know how much HBO is (should look into that i would love to have that)but Netflix and Blockbuster are relatively cheap if you just get the basic subscription service.
Also i think Blockbuster is not going to go completely out of business cause they have been building Kiosks all over just recently and they still have their online subscription for renting DVD's.
What a great episode and its nice to have it right after the US over here. I dont need to find it on the internet. Also it was cool that it was Sean Beans birthday last Sunday for the pilot episode.
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