Bruce and Wonder Woman Romance: Bat-Fans Views?

[WorstThingUS]

Utterly contrived at this point. They know you can't put her with Superman because of Lois, so they're going to the number two guy in DC, utterly irregardless of his personality or hers. The bat-family, from Bruce to Dick to Tim, the bat-family likes it either dangerous, damaged or in distress. He wouldn't look at her any more than Dick looked at Donna and both Tim and Cassie had to be near insane (cloning and cults) with grief to hook up.

[Ned McDodd]

i wouldn't mind seeing a romantic relationship between Batman and Wonder woman explored. It would interest me and i think it has potential for some good stories. But it shouldn't be a long lasting relationship. I still see Bruce with Selina.

[BooCoo]

Let's face it, Bruce could diddle with Zatanna (the only chick he actually fantasized having a life with), WW (shoot, make it off/on spicy), Selina for all the 'classic' shippers (personally think that's stale), or even SHondra Kinsolving if she's all better like Alfred said. Bruce was going to marry her also before that Knightfall buisness messed everything up. Or even Ivy, who he has hot chemistry with (it would be destructive and insane). Talia for the past, but not present. Black Canary for the thrills. See, the list goes on...

[dupersuper]

Then again this romance has been building since the Morrison JLA era at the very least

Well, Kelly JLA.

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Wasn't that done by Joe Kelly and resolved?

And Rucka who wrote Bruce like an a-hole in his run suddenly throws him into a WW book as WW lover when the chick was about to make kids with Nemesis?

Talk about jumping the shark. But tell Wondy park her plane behind Catwoman, Talia and Zatanna . Cause we know those 3 will be "welcoming" Bruce too.

...and Silver and Vicky and Orions late wife...

Let's face it, Bruce could diddle with Zatanna (the only chick he actually fantasized having a life with), WW (shoot, make it off/on spicy), Selina for all the 'classic' shippers (personally think that's stale), or even SHondra Kinsolving if she's all better like Alfred said. Bruce was going to marry her also before that Knightfall buisness messed everything up. Or even Ivy, who he has hot chemistry with (it would be destructive and insane). Talia for the past, but not present. Black Canary for the thrills. See, the list goes on...

Green Arrow may take issue with Black Canary/Batman shipping (as may Dinah). Also, Bats fantasized about a life with Selina in JLA when they fought the Key.

[Mr_Wayne]

Well if anything it would sure boost Diana's sales. Her dating Bruce benefits her more than vise versa.

[Kate Fatale]

I think Talia loves him. I'm really not sure she understands him. And I think Selina would be jealous of Diana. And I think it would be good for the Bruce/Selina relationship. She might stop being so damn passive about it. Of course, she also has card in her back pocket -- you just know her kid is Bruce's.

Of course, as you probably know already, I think Talia does understand him; she just has way too many issues that conflict with his beliefs for that understanding to do them any good, but again, that's just my opinion. And yeah, I think Selina's baby has got to be Bruce's, or at least I hope it is. It would be so funny if a Bruce/Diana relationship were ever to happen if Selina did pull out that trump card; I'm sure Talia's ready to do it if she ever feels threatened. If Bruce and Selina are ever going to work out (and you know they're going to try it again someday just from the perpetual tension between them), Selina does need to work on her romantic passivity. That being said, I do think Selina would handle being (temporarily) upstaged by Diana much more gracefully than Demon Junior.

Talk about jumping the shark. But tell Wondy park her plane behind Catwoman, Talia and Zatanna . Cause we know those 3 will be "welcoming" Bruce too.

I want that welcoming to actually be addressed when he comes back. I love the Bat-boys, but I feel like we're not really getting to see how much the ladies of Bruce's life have dealt with his disappearance and apparent death.

[Mr_Wayne]

Question: Where's all this Diana/Bruce talk coming from anyway? I must have missed something in a comic somewhere.

[Kimi]

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It's coming from this:



Happened in BN:WW.



Anyways, personally never shipped anything, always simply read books and took the romances as part of the script, not necessarily thinking afterwards of the characters etc... So it strikes about possibilities of stories everytime in my humble opinion, with some quality storyline of course with the writer nailing these aspects adding to there a nice background to study, then why not? Like every topic in this could be worked, from various points of view, when saying that I'm not only talking about this specific but subsequently any romance focus to work.

Yes, then.

[scandalsavage]

Of course, as you probably know already, I think Talia does understand him; she just has way too many issues that conflict with his beliefs for that understanding to do them any good

Okay, yeah. What you said is actually better. Talia understands, but can't act on it. Selina understands and does act on it.

It would be so funny if a Bruce/Diana relationship were ever to happen if Selina did pull out that trump card; I'm sure Talia's ready to do it if she ever feels threatened.

And poor Bruce has a dream where each of them stands on opposites sides of him with their child screaming, "Pick my mommy, daddy. Pick my mommy." Except Damian would probably just say, "Really, Father why is this so hard for you? It's Tiffanys vs. Target. Think with your brain for once."

[hellacre]

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It's coming from this:



Happened in BN:WW.




Anyways, personally never shipped anything, always simply read books and took the romances as part of the script, not necessarily thinking afterwards of the characters etc... So it strikes about possibilities of stories everytime in my humble opinion, with some quality storyline of course with the writer nailing these aspects adding to there a nice background to study, then why not? Like every topic in this could be worked, from various points of view, when saying that I'm not only talking about this specific but subsequently any romance focus to work.

Yes, then.

Seems to undermine quite a bit of what Gail Simone did with WW though. The writer herself does not know where this idea that Diana is pining from Bruce is coming from.

Just like most Batfans know it would never last, she has stated Diana is not pining over Batman.

Shipping is actually different from cold hard facts or what is written in comics. WW comics have had nothing to suggest what Greg Rucka suggested.


If it is a gimmick well it did what it was supposed to do but it is not exactly doing anything for WW as far as I see.

[Hullababy]

I think it would be interesting and fun to see, though of course it wouldn't last.

This.

I actually don't think him and Selina will ever work. I think that ship has sailed.

And this.

[trypr]

hmm, well I see the major women in Bruce's life this way

Talia is the ex. The one who's a big part of your life whether you like it or not, whom you'll always love but feel slightly glad you escaped.

Selina is the passionate love of your life: very compatible but different goals prevent you from making a go of it. Even if you were to change there's no guarantee she could or would.

Diana is the woman who would have loved you, but saw that you were not ready, moved on and settled for loving you in a way you'd let her, instead.

Zatanna is your friend, the woman who'd take you as you are, and if you had an ounce of sense you'd say yes.

[Kate Fatale]

Okay, yeah. What you said is actually better. Talia understands, but can't act on it. Selina understands and does act on it.

I definitely agree with that. (On that note, I know I've said this before on here, but I really do wish the weird relationship between Selina and Talia could be explored more. Talia seems to respect her relationship with Bruce in Hush, hence her taking care to repair Selina's face as well as the rest of her, and the fact that they did a bit of meditation and hanging out in the Sirens flashback definitely makes me think that, as much as Talia sees herself as superior to every other woman on earth, she feels some admiration for Selina. Even without Bruce, I'd like to eventually see them become allies.)

And poor Bruce has a dream where each of them stands on opposites sides of him with their child screaming, "Pick my mommy, daddy. Pick my mommy." Except Damian would probably just say, "Really, Father why is this so hard for you? It's Tiffanys vs. Target. Think with your brain for once."

That's a perfect Damian line! If this ever happens, DC should hire you to write it.

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It's coming from this:

[Incredibly awesome image of Diana and Fantasy Bruce]

Happened in BN:WW.

Anyways, personally never shipped anything, always simply read books and took the romances as part of the script, not necessarily thinking afterwards of the characters etc... So it strikes about possibilities of stories everytime in my humble opinion, with some quality storyline of course with the writer nailing these aspects adding to there a nice background to study, then why not? Like every topic in this could be worked, from various points of view, when saying that I'm not only talking about this specific but subsequently any romance focus to work.

Yes, then.

Thanks for posting the image! I hadn't seen it yet.

And wasn't Bruce terribly attracted to her in Wagner's Trinity? And the Justice League animated series established a good deal of tension between them. And let's be honest here -- it's Batman, and he's kind of the "ideal" dark horse romantic hero in the DCU. Many DC ladies have had at least a flirtation with him, and many more will in the future.

[Kimi]

Seems to undermine quite a bit of what Gail Simone did with WW though. The writer herself does not know where this idea that Diana is pining from Bruce is coming from.

Just like most Batfans know it would never last, she has stated Diana is not pining over Batman.

Shipping is actually different from cold hard facts or what is written in comics. WW comics have had nothing to suggest what Greg Rucka suggested.


If it is a gimmick well it did what it was supposed to do but it is not exactly doing anything for WW as far as I see.

The question is not exactly that, is it? I mean, if it was about bringing something out of the nowhere, then my vote would of be to not let it be for the moment, but as seeing something explored as the poll question suggests, with correct developments then I'm personally okay with it, just as would be with any other matter romantic or not for a storyline.

[Frisky Dingo]

Seems to undermine quite a bit of what Gail Simone did with WW though. The writer herself does not know where this idea that Diana is pining from Bruce is coming from.

Just like most Batfans know it would never last, she has stated Diana is not pining over Batman.

Shipping is actually different from cold hard facts or what is written in comics. WW comics have had nothing to suggest what Greg Rucka suggested.


If it is a gimmick well it did what it was supposed to do but it is not exactly doing anything for WW as far as I see.

Well, first off the thread isn’t to complain about how wronged you feel Gail Simone was by the “BN” mini. Which by the way an editor had to sign off on that, it’s not like Greg Rucka is out there self-publishing the “BN” mini.

But just because Simone doesn’t think Wonder Woman holds feelings for Bruce doesn’t mean the relationship couldn’t/shouldn’t be explored. That’s one writer’s take; she is not the be all and end all of possible Wonder Woman and Batman stories. And that’s the point of the thread, as the poll points out, to find out if Bat-Fans are interested in seeing the relationship explored.

And just because many people are in agreement that the relationship wouldn’t last doesn’t mean the storyline shouldn’t be explored. Exploring relationships that would only last forever would cut out most romantic storylines in comics.

And again I think you’re missing the point of the thread. If you think the relationship wouldn’t be interesting to see, obviously that’s fine. But you’re just complaining about one moment in the “BN” mini.