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    Considering what she went through in the chapter of Envy, I don't expect she'll be able to do anything but mope . . .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rod G View Post
    Considering what she went through in the chapter of Envy, I don't expect she'll be able to do anything but mope . . .
    It was shown how she got over that and got back into ass-kicking mode again. Why would she mope?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Skill View Post
    Plus she's the main character, this Naruto wannabe isn't.
    Not all shounen manga is about the main character becoming the strongest person in the world.

    Maka will certainly get stronger and maybe become the best at dealing with spirits. But in terms of fighting abilities Black*Star will most likely be the one at the top in the end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul # 7 View Post
    Not all shounen manga is about the main character becoming the strongest person in the world.

    Maka will certainly get stronger and maybe become the best at dealing with spirits. But in terms of fighting abilities Black*Star will most likely be the one at the top in the end.
    Yes it is. You make the most impact by being the strongest or the best.

    Maka and Soul will be the strongest Meisters and Weapons. Black Star and Kid will be equal. Thats all there is to it. Black Star might be more skilled in hand 2 hand than Maka but he still won't be the strongest and best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Skill View Post
    Yes it is. You make the most impact by being the strongest or the best.
    To quote Mark Twain: "All generalizations are false. Including this one."

    Look, we can agree that what you are talking about is common. But you can't say there does not exist such a thing as a shonen manga were the main character doesn't become the strongest. I'm telling you right now, that's an argument you are not going to win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Skill View Post
    Maka is going to surpass BS and Kidd. So BS needs to STFU and stop the goddamn banter on how he's gonna surpass god.
    I think you need to STFU.

    Unless you care to come up with something that isn't all embittered, though I suspect this is beyond you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul # 7 View Post
    It was shown how she got over that and got back into ass-kicking mode again. Why would she mope?
    She ended up getting beaten by Giriko in his new body, for starters.


    And those visions from the Envy chapter will never leave her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Skill View Post
    She's got black blood
    Oh noes, she's got the thing that Black Star has already punched through!
    Clearly, he is outmatched!
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Skill View Post
    and is basically a walking deus ex maxhine when combining with soul and his black blood.
    ...As we just saw, soul wavelengths manipulation doesn't help when the other guy has so much sheer power and presence that he drowns you out.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Skill View Post
    Kid's got power, but he can't overpower death.
    Except for the fact that that's his stated goal, that he's now able to fight Death the Kid to a stalemate(compare with how their first fight ended up) and that he's constantly been shown to be above Maka in a fight.
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Skill View Post
    Plus she's the main character, this Naruto wannabe isn't.
    ...You know, I never got that. How is Black Star a Naruto wannabe?

    They sort of look alike if you look hard, I guess, but...aside from lack of stealth, that's pretty much their only thing in common.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rod G View Post
    She ended up getting beaten by Giriko in his new body, for starters.
    I don't think losing to the guy that was so bloodlusted that his soul exploded is going to be something that she'll angst about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Siriel View Post
    Oh noes, she's got the thing that Black Star has already punched through!
    Clearly, he is outmatched!
    Chrona got nerfed after Medusa took her back. Since then Maka's been getting stronger than Chrona ever has with her black blood. You can't compare the two.

    ...As we just saw, soul wavelengths manipulation doesn't help when the other guy has so much sheer power and presence that he drowns you out.
    Except Maka's soul wavelength is pure light and Stars is pure darkness and being anti soul combined with black blood proves her power overwhelms Stars one raw power soul.
    Except for the fact that that's his stated goal, that he's now able to fight Death the Kid to a stalemate(compare with how their first fight ended up) and that he's constantly been shown to be above Maka in a fight.
    Death the Kid is also nerfed before the immortals arc, this insanity power up he would get would make Black Star shit is pants and crap himself. Like Asura did. It seems everyone has to nerfed in order for BS to stand a chance.
    ...You know, I never got that. How is Black Star a Naruto wannabe?
    Dude, he's Naruto with Kamina's personality and Rock Lee's quirks. Plus it doesn't help he's a ninja.

    All and all, Maka's the main character. Black Star is talking non sense. Plus he's getting power from the wrong source and is supposed to be a good guy not an anti hero.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Skill View Post
    All and all, Maka's the main character. Black Star is talking non sense. Plus he's getting power from the wrong source and is supposed to be a good guy not an anti hero.

    I'm glad you have such an intimate knowledge of the mangaka's plans.

    I was beginning to wonder where the story was going.

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    So, to move on from Shadow Skill's whiny bitch attack, latest chapter was pretty good.

    It looks like we're going to see Death the Kid kick some arse in the near future.

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    Interesting new chapter.

    I think that I need to reread the arc to get Kidd and Black*Star's answers properly though.

    Now time for some serious arse-whupping.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rod G View Post
    She ended up getting beaten by Giriko in his new body, for starters.
    Like Siriel said. Giriko was so excited that his soul exploded. Losing to a guy like that, after he gets in a sneak-attack, isn't something to feel bad about.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rod G View Post
    And those visions from the Envy chapter will never leave her.
    Doubtful. Again, she got over those with Soul's help.

    They might pop up for a moment or so at points but I believe that she'll just tell the part of her that thinks about them to shut up. She lived through what the Clown put her through she can live through this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Skill View Post
    this insanity power up he would get would make Black Star shit is pants and crap himself.
    ...Then why did Black Star just punch him out of it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Shadow Skill View Post
    Except Maka's soul wavelength is pure light and Stars is pure darkness and being anti soul combined with black blood proves her power overwhelms Stars one raw power soul.
    Yeah. She totally didn't just get beaten by someone relying purely on raw power.

    Are you even reading the same manga we all are?
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    Manticore! I choose you!


    So Noah's a Pokemon master! It makes total sense. He just wants to catch them all!

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