Flash! Bang! PAF! Jubilee Appreciation

[jubilees_boyfriend]

Nope- Jubilee has never slept with anyone on panel. She mentioned that she 'wished' she slept with Skin prior to him passing away... however, they never did anything.

As for off panel... she may have been intimate with Xarus, Dracula's son, whom turned her into a vampire. This has been hinted at a few times, but never discussed for sure on panel.

[Starleafgirl]

3) We've heard that Jubilee is leaving X-Men; many of us hope this means there are plans for her elsewhere. Could a visit to the JGSHL be in her future?

No plans for Jubilee on my end. But from issue to issue you just never know who might be showing up at the Jean Grey School. First it was Deathlok dropping by, now Captain America and... Cyclops? Uh oh.

Well, I tried! Lol.

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[keeper444]

I hoped that she stayed with team a little more I don't like very much the forgiven.

[jubilees_boyfriend]

Well, I tried! Lol.

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Thanks for the question- I saw it, too. He did say that there were no plans for Jubilee 'on his end,' which could either mean he doesn't have plans... or someone else already has plans for her.

[Herring]

Well, I tried! Lol.

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Thanks for asking x2


If Jubilee does go into another x-team immediately, i guess it could be the new x-treme x-men. So far they've only said that'll have Dazzler + generic x-cast from another universe. I'd prefer Jubilee ended up with Liu writing her in astonishing (of course), but I'm not sure how she'd fit a team of ambiguous middle agers.

I'm also curious how they're going to sell Jubilee's departure in book - if she'll go off to train with the ISO vampire team, or otherwise just disappear without being mentioned lol.

[Starleafgirl]

Thanks for asking x2


If Jubilee does go into another x-team immediately, i guess it could be the new x-treme x-men. So far they've only said that'll have Dazzler + generic x-cast from another universe. I'd prefer Jubilee ended up with Liu writing her in astonishing (of course), but I'm not sure how she'd fit a team of ambiguous middle agers.

I'm also curious how they're going to sell Jubilee's departure in book - if she'll go off to train with the ISO vampire team, or otherwise just disappear without being mentioned lol.

Hehe, you're welcome, guys; I'm just glad my questions got picked!

You've got a good point about the new X-Tream X-Men... maybe she got taken off to join that one?

The solit for the next issue of Legacy says a newly returned mutant joins Wolverine's X-Men, but I kind of doubt Jubilee fits as a mutant anymore.

[DurararaFTW]

Sheesh, Jubilee is leaving again, we just got her back. Hopefully there really is a X-23 & Jubilee team up in the work, they seem to be aware that those two work well together.

[jjk1901]

Brian Wood's comment that Jubilee was taken off the team by editorial either means they have immediate other plans for her or they're retiring her for a while. I have a feeling they'll write her as staying with her new vampire friends, which is sad. But really, what else can they do with her at this point? I think she'd fit in better with the kids at Avengers Academy now, and she'd be reunited with X-23.

[Starleafgirl]

Brian Wood's comment that Jubilee was taken off the team by editorial either means they have immediate other plans for her or they're retiring her for a while. I have a feeling they'll write her as staying with her new vampire friends, which is sad. But really, what else can they do with her at this point? I think she'd fit in better with the kids at Avengers Academy now, and she'd be reunited with X-23.

And Penance.

And that's actually not a half-bad idea, especially if her editorially-mandated in-character reason for leaving is that she's decided she's not really a mutant anymore and shouldn't be hanging with 'em.

[Herring]

And Penance.

And that's actually not a half-bad idea, especially if her editorially-mandated in-character reason for leaving is that she's decided she's not really a mutant anymore and shouldn't be hanging with 'em.

Lol kick out most of the current AA cast, end up with the long-awaited Jubilee/X-23/Penance series.

Though I rather like Jubilee with the X-Men. I think there is merit in the minority within a minority angle, and its sad that adjectiveless lacked the sophistication of writing to explore that. And really, given they've already got Brood, Shiar, and Robots in other X-Men titles a vampire isn't a huge stretch.

[Candylyn]

Hollow (Penance), Jubilee and X-23 in a mini-series would be a wonderful thing. They are outsiders even amongst mutants. No one has ever been able to properly explain how Hollow even exists. X-23 has... issues that Jubilee may be best suited to help her with and vice verse. Jubilee is not completely safe for any living being to be around with the expection of Hollow and X-23 as she cannot hurt them. Jubilee has a history with both characters that could be used to bond the trio. I would love to see them in a monthly away from the X-Men.

(trying not to panic or get my hopes up too high )

[DurararaFTW]

Jubilee can hurt X-23 as easily as anyone, she proved that with Wolverine.

[Herring]

From the upcoming X-Men 27. Hope Jubilee gets to take Lord Deathstrike down by herself. I don't want to see her needing to be rescued. I do like that Jubilee has the skill to to admonish deathstrike for inappropriate throwdown etiquette while effectively defending herself.

But frankly, if Wolverine can job both deathstrikes along with every other character in his rogues gallery at the same time, Jubilee shouldn't have a problem fighting just him.

[jubilees_boyfriend]

From the upcoming X-Men 27. Hope Jubilee gets to take Lord Deathstrike down by herself. I don't want to see her needing to be rescued. I do like that Jubilee has the skill to to admonish deathstrike for inappropriate throwdown etiquette while effectively defending herself.

But frankly, if Wolverine can job both deathstrikes along with every other character in his rogues gallery at the same time, Jubilee shouldn't have a problem fighting just him.

Even though I don't care for Jubilee's eyes in these shots... I really like the art. It is very detailed, colorful, and action-packed. I do note a few funny things, however. Since her vampirism, Jubilee has been shown taking on X-23, Wolverine, hordes of zombies, crazed bloodthirsty civilians, armed soldiers, sentinels, and a ginormous fire breathing dragon. What exactly does Lord Deathstrike bring to the table that can counterattack and overpower Jubilee's recent feats of awesomeness? Jubilee is supposed to have super speed, super strength, regenerative healing, super durability, and a mist form. Is Lord Deathstrike a mutant or being with strength and speed capable of matching a higher-than average vampire? As a mutant, Jubilee took on the likes of the Shi'ar Empire, Juggernaut, Bastion, Magneto, Sauron, Sabertooth, the Brood, Mojo, Emplate, Sentinels, the Blob, Lady Deathstrike, the Reavers, and the Mandarin... and lived to tell about it. What does this chump have that these guys do not? Heck... Jubilee is still a capable adversary even without her mutant or vampire abilities. Her gymnastics, fighting skills, and time spent doing superheroics is enough to brag about. With that being said, she realistically should be able to take down Lord Deathstrike without busting a sweat.

Also, Gischler is still apparently giving Jubes the 'teenage vampire girl' crutch, according to the recap page, to make her seem less than worthly. You mean to tell me that, even though she has existed in the comics since 1989, the girl is still a teenager? I don't like when writers use her young age (even though she should be in her 20s easily,) as a handicap. She has more stripes under her belt than any other X-Character for her age... and should be written as having equal respect from her teammates instead of poorly thought out criticisms from Storm, etc. Marjorie Liu is great at noting the maturity and experience of her character... Kathryn Immonen took many strides to do so as well. It should be the same for other writers, too.

I have a sad feeling that this is the last issue Jubes will appear in for awhile. The solicits for the next few months don't show her at all, which is the first time in a few years that it has been that way. If Jubilee fades into obscurity after Marvel made such a HUGE deal about her becoming a vampire (Wolverine and Jubilee mini, guest shots in X-23, leading role in X-Men,) it would be both a waste and stupid mistake on their part. I am hoping that Jubilee is mentioned at this weekend's big comic convention... either in another X-Team, a Forgiven vampire title, or even an ongoing. That is more or less a dream of mine... hopefully it will become a reality... but I'm not sure at the moment.

[Herring]

Even though I don't care for Jubilee's eyes in these shots... I really like the art. It is very detailed, colorful, and action-packed. I do note a few funny things, however. Since her vampirism, Jubilee has been shown taking on X-23, Wolverine, hordes of zombies, crazed bloodthirsty civilians, armed soldiers, sentinels, and a ginormous fire breathing dragon. What exactly does Lord Deathstrike bring to the table that can counterattack and overpower Jubilee's recent feats of awesomeness? Jubilee is supposed to have super speed, super strength, regenerative healing, super durability, and a mist form. Is Lord Deathstrike a mutant or being with strength and speed capable of matching a higher-than average vampire? As a mutant, Jubilee took on the likes of the Shi'ar Empire, Juggernaut, Bastion, Magneto, Sauron, Sabertooth, the Brood, Mojo, Emplate, Sentinels, the Blob, Lady Deathstrike, the Reavers, and the Mandarin... and lived to tell about it. What does this chump have that these guys do not? Heck... Jubilee is still a capable adversary even without her mutant or vampire abilities. Her gymnastics, fighting skills, and time spent doing superheroics is enough to brag about. With that being said, she realistically should be able to take down Lord Deathstrike without busting a sweat.

I think you have to compare how Jubilee is faring with the other characters: Storm, Psylocke, ISO vampire #2 (Inka) and even Raizo "I taught Sun-Tzu everything he knows" Kodo got owned pretty easily by Lord Deathstrike. Jubilee is ahead of the pack just by not being knocked out in one attack. Now I'm not sure Lord Deathstrike is the right character to be used in this way - he didn't seem anywhere near as impressive in Wolverine. But it does seem Gischler's intent to make Deathstrike the all-powerful boss character this arc, and Jubilee's having a better showing against him that the rest of the team.

Another part of the problem is that Gischler doesn't really write in a way that showcases characters' powers. As you say, Jubilee should be hacking at Deathstrike in superspeed here. Maybe she is and Deathstrike is just able to match that speed (maybe via some supertech he's equipped with). But it's not clear. It just looks like a normal sword fight, which makes you think neither character is particularly powerful.

Also, Gischler is still apparently giving Jubes the 'teenage vampire girl' crutch, according to the recap page, to make her seem less than worthly. You mean to tell me that, even though she has existed in the comics since 1989, the girl is still a teenager? I don't like when writers use her young age (even though she should be in her 20s easily,) as a handicap. She has more stripes under her belt than any other X-Character for her age... and should be written as having equal respect from her teammates instead of poorly thought out criticisms from Storm, etc. Marjorie Liu is great at noting the maturity and experience of her character... Kathryn Immonen took many strides to do so as well. It should be the same for other writers, too.

I'm hoping that this is supposed to be an ironic evocation of some trope, where it's well understood that in terms of fighting ability:

Special Forces Guy with guns << Ninja << decrepit old man << decrepit old man/w underwear fetish << teenage girl

What worries me from the preview is that they are having all the other X-Men rushing to converge on the headquarters, which might be a setup for "we got there just in time to save her". I'm hoping Gischler's done some thinking and realised that Vampire Jubilee is probably his most significant contribution to the X-Universe, so he might as well make her bad ass in his last issue with her.

Though he's already accidentally made her the most all-round competent character in this arc and the previous one. :p

I have a sad feeling that this is the last issue Jubes will appear in for awhile. The solicits for the next few months don't show her at all, which is the first time in a few years that it has been that way. If Jubilee fades into obscurity after Marvel made such a HUGE deal about her becoming a vampire (Wolverine and Jubilee mini, guest shots in X-23, leading role in X-Men,) it would be both a waste and stupid mistake on their part. I am hoping that Jubilee is mentioned at this weekend's big comic convention... either in another X-Team, a Forgiven vampire title, or even an ongoing. That is more or less a dream of mine... hopefully it will become a reality... but I'm not sure at the moment.

I'm not particularly happy either. I'm wondering if editorial think Gischler's done severe damage to the whole vampire concept (making it too generic, forced and boring), so they put everything vampire related on hold (including Jubilee) for a while to make everyone forget how much of a mess it was before trying again. Or they're going to permanently mothball her.

Either one is a shame because all the side books - Wolverine and Jubilee, the X-23 issues featuring Jubilee have been excellent. It's just the main adjectiveless X-Men that hasn't lived up to expectations.