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    They need to at least put his powers back at the Age of Apocalypse level where he they were on par with Apocalypse's. His not Cable..he's not supposed to have limits. That was the whole damn point of X-Man. He was raw power unchecked and possibly the last great hope for mutantkind.

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    Make him too powerful and we'll have the Phoenix mess all over again.
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    Nate Grey is supposed to be very powerful though...Phoenix is a entity they kept pushing because they don't know how to write Jean without it. Nate was born with cosmic level power...he's not supposed to have lower powers than Boom Boom..LOL. That's crazy.

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    Nate's powers will come back over time...its not like this is the first time this has happened.
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    Nate grey a clone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GambitXRemy View Post
    Nate grey a clone?
    What gave you that idea?

    Nate was created from the genes of AoA Scott Summers and AoA Jean Grey by AoA Sinister.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Big G View Post
    What gave you that idea?

    Nate was created from the genes of AoA Scott Summers and AoA Jean Grey by AoA Sinister.
    Ya so wouldn't that make him a clone

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    Quote Originally Posted by GambitXRemy View Post
    Ya so wouldn't that make him a clone
    No, that would make him, genetically, their child, just not conceived the old fashioned way.

    A clone is a genetic COPY of an existing person. By virtue of using the DNA of two separate beings to create an entirely new being who never existed before* disqualifies him as being a clone.

    *Now an argument can be made that, in a round about way, he's a clone of Cable, but not really. Rather, alternate yet genetically identical genes of his "donor parents" were combined to bring about another version of him. The 616 Scott and a clone of Jean Grey (Madeline Pryor) did the horizontal polka and we get Cable. For Nate: The genes of the AoA Scott, which is genetically identical to the 616 Cyclops, was combined with the genes of the AoA Jean Grey, which is genetically identical to the 616 Jean Grey (and by virtue of Madeline Pryor being Jean's clone, identical to hers as well) and we get Nate Grey.
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    And technically Nate and Cable's genetics are not even entirely identical since AOA Sinister tampered with him during the growing process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nate-grey View Post
    And technically Nate and Cable's genetics are not even entirely identical since AOA Sinister tampered with him during the growing process.
    It's ridiculous that Nate's and Cable's genetics would be any more identical than any two full siblings. Sinister may have controlled which genes Nate would get from each parent, but he had no control over which of 616 Scott's sperm would fertilize which of 616 Madelyne's eggs at the moment of Cable's conception.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GambitXRemy View Post
    Ya so wouldn't that make him a clone
    Quote Originally Posted by Nate Grey View Post
    No, that would make him, genetically, their child, just not conceived the old fashioned way.

    A clone is a genetic COPY of an existing person. By virtue of using the DNA of two separate beings to create an entirely new being who never existed before* disqualifies him as being a clone.

    *Now an argument can be made that, in a round about way, he's a clone of Cable, but not really.
    Thank you NG. As comic books fas we should all know what a clone is by now.

    Stryfe is a clone while Nate Grey is not.
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    Nates. Gonna hook up with dani yay

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    Quote Originally Posted by GambitXRemy View Post
    Nates. Gonna hook up with dani yay
    The two just need to sleep with each other to get it out of their systems
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Big G View Post
    The two just need to sleep with each other to get it out of their systems
    I would them to have a relationship instead... I hate. Sam and dani together

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