Emma Frost Appreciation II

**Buffy56** · 01-24-2010, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Artemis Assassin

She seems like the best option.

Yes I agree, I mean she wont back down to no one!

**nikbackm** · 01-24-2010, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by NewMutant

She was the best option. Then Fraction took over and made her Cyclops lapdog.

I wouldn't say she was necessarily the best option, but yes she could (and still can) certainly lead under some circumstances.

But I don't expect this to happen during or after Second Coming. Most likely Scott will still be in charge unless Marvel decides to really stir things up.

Originally Posted by NewMutant

Before at best she was in charge and Scott was field command. At worst they were co-leaders. Which is why I disagree that Fraction is taking his que from Whedon.

I said the end of Whedon's run, their dynamic started changing quite a bit after Torn. Combine this with what Brubaker did in his run (e.g. Scott saying he will change things) and the result is basically Fraction's Emma.

**shavoxin** · 01-25-2010, 01:32 AM

I think Emma leading would be kind of nice if not for the fact that there are still more than a few people in the island who doesn't really like her very much.

**Free-Man** · 01-25-2010, 03:40 PM

I'd definately like to see Emma lead again.

**NewMutant** · 01-25-2010, 03:47 PM

Originally Posted by nikbackm

I said the end of Whedon's run, their dynamic started changing quite a bit after Torn. Combine this with what Brubaker did in his run (e.g. Scott saying he will change things) and the result is basically Fraction's Emma.

I agree Whedon definitely start to build Cyclops up but he did it without hurting Emma. Where Bru, who worked with Fraction, did more damage. Fraction has done a fine job plot point wise, but his character voices are awlful.

**ExodusCloak** · 01-25-2010, 03:49 PM

Originally Posted by NewMutant

I agree Whedon definitely start to build Cyclops up but he did it without hurting Emma. Where Bru, who worked with Fraction, did more damage. Fraction has done a fine job plot point wise, but his character voices are awlful.

Nah he definitely broke Emma done and never bothered to put the pieces back together again.

**fod_xp** · 01-25-2010, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by jamesfreeman

I'd definately like to see Emma lead again.

Mmm...Just imagine the things Emma would inherit from Scott...

When Emma killed Adrienne she took possession of her estate, which just happened to include a small island, which she sold in her fluffy white robe.

So, what does Scott have: A hanger full of flying jet-cars, experimental X-Planes that have more functions then the entire vehicles the Thunderbirds used, and he even happens to have one of Mags old Asteroid M's. think of the money she could make bu selling that!!!

And As I said earlier, the X-Men could just pack up their gear and people and just chill on the Peak with Henry and Abby!

**NewMutant** · 01-25-2010, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by ExodusCloak

Nah he definitely broke Emma done and never bothered to put the pieces back together again.

who Whedon?

**fod_xp** · 01-25-2010, 03:57 PM

Originally Posted by NewMutant

who Whedon?

Fraction or Brubaker.

There is a consensus that both Whedon and Morrison wrote a hell of an Emma. She clearly had presence and a character voice.

**Free-Man** · 01-25-2010, 04:19 PM

Emma and Scott need to double date with Storm and her hubby. Nothing less than royal meals and dining accomidations are good enough for Ems.

**shavoxin** · 01-25-2010, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by jamesfreeman

Emma and Scott need to double date with Storm and her hubby. Nothing less than royal meals and dining accomidations are good enough for Ems.

When love-making becomes boring for Scott and Emma, they can make plans.

**nikbackm** · 01-25-2010, 10:32 PM

Originally Posted by NewMutant

I agree Whedon definitely start to build Cyclops up but he did it without hurting Emma. Where Bru, who worked with Fraction, did more damage. Fraction has done a fine job plot point wise, but his character voices are awlful.

Yes, the actual plots Fraction has done with Emma hasn't really been bad I think. Some changes in the dialogue (e.g. sympathizing with Colossus without being quite so cheesy about it) and the art (no goofy grins at the wrong times) would go a long way to improve things.

My point was that Scott and Emma's current positions really are a logical consequence from where Whedon and Brubaker left them.

**NewMutant** · 01-26-2010, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by nikbackm

Yes, the actual plots Fraction has done with Emma hasn't really been bad I think. Some changes in the dialogue (e.g. sympathizing with Colossus without being quite so cheesy about it) and the art (no goofy grins at the wrong times) would go a long way to improve things.

My point was that Scott and Emma's current positions really are a logical consequence from where Whedon and Brubaker left them.

He totally turned her into sidekick, but I see what you are saying.

And for plot points... Well the Russian hoes coming to the school thing was terrible. And going to Utopia, espeically so close after the move to San Fran, is pretty bad too. And I hate Cyclops and his Army concept, but I'm thinking/hoping it blows up in his face.

**shavoxin** · 01-26-2010, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by NewMutant

He totally turned her into sidekick, but I see what you are saying.

And for plot points... Well the Russian hoes coming to the school thing was terrible. And going to Utopia, espeically so close after the move to San Fran, is pretty bad too. And I hate Cyclops and his Army concept, but I'm thinking/hoping it blows up in his face.

I don't like submissive Emma.