Magnus Family Appreciation II

[jmc247]

Lorna had nothing to do with Son of M and several other comics where the House of M portrait was copied as part of a flashback to those events and they didn't see fit to totally alter the portrait to get rid of her. I will certainly agree that none of the copies have been as good as the origional work done by Oliver Coipel.




The joke is that the copy of the family portrait in Children's Crusade had to totally re-arrange where Pietro was in the portrait in order to get rid of Lorna from the picture. Which proves beyond a shadow of a doubt it was no mistake.

LOL That's ridiculous.
Lorna was the only one who looked good in that picture.

I thought the entire family looked pretty good, though Wanda could have done without the thing over her face and Magneto could have looked a bit less bulky.

[quillero]

The joke is that the copy of the family portrait in Children's Crusade had to totally re-arrange where Pietro was in the portrait in order to get rid of Lorna from the picture. Which proves beyond a shadow of a doubt it was no mistake.

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LOL. No. It's a crowded cover, they'd rather show Pietro, who is in the story, than Polaris who isn't. Marvel is not out to get Polaris or any of her ten fans.

[jmc247]

LOL. No. It's a crowded cover, they'd rather show Pietro, who is in the story, than Polaris who isn't. Marvel is not out to get Polaris or any of her ten fans.

Sorry, I don't buy that it was that crowded quillero that it couldn't have fit in one more character and had to replace Lorna with Pietro.

Its a 9 issue mini series.

Son of M was a five issue mini series that had nothing at all to do with Lorna and the artist found the space for a much much more massive replica of the family portrait and didn't cut any character out of it.

What If House of M was a one shot and they decided to add in the famiy portrait and didn't feel the need to alter it in any way shape or form.

I didn't ask and I don't care if they decided to have or not to have the famous family portrait of the House of M in Children's Crusade. But, altering it by removing Lorna and placing Pietro in her place was ridiculous.

[Noona1]

Pietro is talked about, since he will be part of the Academy
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=25833

[Noona1]

I don't like the cover of Avengers Academy, Pietro looks weird
Pietro Maximoff doesn't have the patience to train children

"Quicksilver is not known for his patience so he might be a teacher the kids aren't incredibly fond of. Or might we be surprised by Quicksilver’s skill as a teacher?

You're right, he's not patient, but he has knowledge that might be of more benefit to the students than anything else they learn. Or more danger…"

I pointed that out before this interview existed
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=25833

[Noona1]

[jlmoor]

"Quicksilver is not known for his patience so he might be a teacher the kids aren't incredibly fond of. Or might we be surprised by Quicksilver’s skill as a teacher?

You're right, he's not patient, but he has knowledge that might be of more benefit to the students than anything else they learn. Or more danger…"

I pointed that out before this interview existed
http://www.comicbookresources.com/?p...ticle&id=25833

the pics are awesome

Maybe Pietro is really seeking redemption and will really put forth the effort to help these kids since he kinda screwed up his relationship with Luna. I think it's funny that even when the poor guy tries to do the right thing, he winds up following in his father's footsteps.

[MonkeyBee]

"Quicksilver is not known for his patience so he might be a teacher the kids aren't incredibly fond of."

I can't help thinking of Billy Madison: "T-T-T-TODAY JUNIOR!"

[Noona1]

I can't help thinking of Billy Madison: "T-T-T-TODAY JUNIOR!"

Umm, Who would that be?

[MonkeyBee]

It's a film. The titular character has a complete lack of sympathy for a child trying his best. But it's not like these students don't understand what heroes have to face and what an opportunity this training is, and Quicksilver has a reason to reign in his temper. A big chunk of his self-worth is based on how useful/needed he is. He needs to prove to himself and everyone else that he's still an asset. He can't afford to fail again. Plus, jlmoor's got a really good point possibly seeing the students as some sort of substitute for Luna.

As for Polaris and the Children's Crusade, she's always been on the edge of the family and her connection to Magneto is much more important to her than the twins. Polaris rarely interacts with her siblings in any meaningful way (in fact, I can't think of any occasions off the top of my head). Even in the HoM titles, when they were all together as a real family, it was as if the three just happened to be in the same building. Presumably Wanda only put Lorna there because Lorna's desire was to be with her father and Magneto wanted all of his loyal children around him. Much as I'd like to see Polaris closer to her brother and sister, the relationship just isn't there to warrant her being a big part of this arc.

[jmc247]

Even in the HoM titles, when they were all together as a real family, it was as if the three just happened to be in the same building. Presumably Wanda only put Lorna there because Lorna's desire was to be with her father and Magneto wanted all of his loyal children around him.

I take it you didn't read Civil War House of M. In the House of M universe Lorna was closer to Pietro then she was to Magneto.

Much as I'd like to see Polaris closer to her brother and sister, the relationship just isn't there to warrant her being a big part of this arc

You don't understand that I don't even want her to be a big part in the arc, I don't even want her to be a guest star in this arc. I am happy Lorna isn't in Children's Crusade. Even though the writer said there would be alot of guest stars poping up why would I wanted Lorna edited by a series who editor openly his shown his distain for her parentage and her fans and who is really hands on with this series. If she was there the most we would get is part of one issue where the editor gets some digs that Lorna really isn't part of the family before she leaves. I do find it laughable is them changing the offical portrait of the HoM and replacing Lorna with Quicksilver.

Its other fans around the internet want her to be there, because they really do want her to develop some relationship with her core family. But, most of them don't realize its a blessing that she isn't because the editor hates the notion of her being part of the family.

As for Polaris and the Children's Crusade, she's always been on the edge of the family and her connection to Magneto is much more important to her than the twins. Polaris rarely interacts with her siblings in any meaningful way (in fact, I can't think of any occasions off the top of my head)

She hasn't interacted with Magneto in the 616 period since 2000. She actually did interact with Wanda and Pietro in Uncanny 442 and 443 in 2004 and met up with Pietro again after Banshee's death. In terms of having her develop a post revel relationship with her family she has none. She has more of a post revel relationship with Luna then then she does Magneto, Pietro, or Wanda. She had a strong relationship in the 1990 tru 2000 period with Pietro and Magneto, but that doesn't count as it was pre revel.

The point being I am happy she isn't in Children's Crusade given the editor. But, alot of fans including myself are not at all happy that they haven't done jack to move her relationships forward with Wanda, Pietro and Magneto in the past decade. And, long term it becomes a self fulfilling prophecy with Lorna being kept of of Magnus family event after Magnus family event simply because they didn't build up enough of a relationship beforehand with her family.

I do find it funny though that they were much more willing to have Lorna interact with them pre-revel with what is now 'her family'. She actually had a close relationship a decade ago with most of them whereas she has no relationship with them now.



After the revel TPTB haven't wanted to touch her relationship with her core family with a ten foot pole. Its gone on so long and gotten so bad that even a fan like you doesn't remember that Lorna had a quite close relationship with Pietro both as an Acolyte and on X-Factor.

While I am happy Lorna isn't in Children's Crusade right now. I also am aware that if they don't do some relationship building between her and her core family in the next few years then she will be so seperated from issues and events regarding her family that no writer will ever want to have her interact with them. There is an old saying the longer you put something off the harder it gets and the longer they put off building post revel relationships with Lorna's core family the harder it becomes and the harder it is to add her in and thus the less likely it is for writers to do so.

[Havok83]

Pietro needs to be on an Avengers team or the X-men. I dont like the idea of him bieing a teacher

[jmc247]

Pietro needs to be on an Avengers team or the X-men. I dont like the idea of him bieing a teacher

I also very much don't see him as the teching type. Teaching requires patience which is something he certainly lacks. Wolverine has more patience.

[Havok83]

I also very much don't see him as the teching type. Teaching requires patience which is something he certainly lacks. Wolverine has more patience.

Yeah thats the main thing. I also dont see him caring enough about these kids to want to put up with teaching. He's a selfish and arrogant guy and unless theres something in this for him, its hard to beelieve he'd waste his time on the Academy

[teddyeatsyourface]

Umm, Who would that be?

Billy Madison is an Adam Sandler Movie from the early 90's (and one of my all time favorite of his)



The idea of Pietro teaching reminds me of when they tried to give Gambit a squad of students way back in adjective less X-men. He pretty much just beat the crap out of them.