Magnus Family Appreciation II

[jlmoor]

They liked it when I posted in the old one.

I can never tell when you are joking. I think if Storm and Magneto fans agree on something it's high time someone makes it happen!!!!


I kinda dig Magneto in BP's threads.

[Shaid O Gray]

However it does make them the most believeable relationship in the MU Maybe he knows he's gonna die at the end of 2nd coming and is just trying to go out with style.

Not sure I'm seeing the 'believable' part, hehe. Rogue has mommy issues, not daddy issues. And Magneto has generally been kind of uninterested in relationships overall and tends to view everyone as 'children' around him. Which is all more reasons why it doesn't even fit the characters for me. I hope he won't die at the end of 2ndC though. Tired of his 'deaths'.

Wolverine is like 100 and still gets more a$$ than Iron Man. It's all in the attitude.

Exactly! They don't play Logan as old. There's plenty of supernaturally older characters who still feel young! which is why it galls me so that they only play Magneto as 'grandpa'. Keeling over, the words 'old man' 'not a young man anymore' etc floating on almost every page!

Acutally I think he might have traced HHH for him in that one panel)

HHH?

Wait, was that the foundation? I mean they had met before, they were both royalty in Africa, I thought that was where it was coming from. Yeah that logic is insulting.

Well before the extra history inserted into continuity, I think there was literally only one time when they even were in the same book. And 'both royalty in africa' is also kinda....I mean Africa is a humongously giant continent of many many different countries. So a lot of people were kinda miffed at the 'well they're both from Africa, so it makes sense that they know each other'-thing as well. And Storm was actually still a street kid when they met I think.

I actually used to enjoy his X-Men run, and I still do, but now I just keep picturing all the fans that were practically lighting themselves on fire when Marvel decided to retcon it.

Hmmm you know if they'd actually done that, these boards would sure have been a much more peaceful place with far more calm, pleasant conversations... (I'm bad. I know)

but I guess Scott actually showing that he has some level of distrust makes a lot more sense than #516,

Oh no absolutely. It's just that my version of the dialogue would make more sense. Here Mags asks for his trust, and Scott simply says 'No' and walks away.

I still think that diary has to come into play..

Uh, I may have missed something. What diary?

[Shaid O Gray]

It's weird to see Magneto fly in one page, then use a cane in the next. That should've been handled much better. I do like the idea of him rescuing Kitty though, even though he's weak. This wouldn't be the first time he's displayed incredible power when weakened, and it's going to take him days to pull it off.

oh yeah it's a good idea. And Magneto would want to save Kitty too. But yeah the flying turning into walking with a cane is kinda odd. And I can't shake the notion that Fraction doesn't even notice he's doing these things.

Given that he was pissed at Magneto, I can understand him just shutting him down with a "no". On the other hand, he welcomes Magneto to the island, and straight away tells him all about Hope. And now when Magneto solves the sinking problem, he doesn't trust him anymore?

Exactly. That this was a bad time to ask for trust after kind of going behind his back, okay. But this 'no' seemed to suggest 'not ever' in which case it's kind of weird. And helloo, he DID just solve the sinking issue.

Btw, isn't it funny how none of the brilliant scientists could think of a support column??

[jlmoor]

Not sure I'm seeing the 'believable' part, hehe. Rogue has mommy issues, not daddy issues. And Magneto has generally been kind of uninterested in relationships overall and tends to view everyone as 'children' around him. Which is all more reasons why it doesn't even fit the characters for me. I hope he won't die at the end of 2ndC though. Tired of his 'deaths'.

Me too. There are not even dramatic anymore. It's worse than Jean. But at least with Jean it makes sense. If she was names corpse not so much, but her name is Phoenix after all. If he dies again they damn well better change him name to Phoenix.

HHH?

Triple H.

Uh, I may have missed something. What diary?

Skids give Magneto a diary that supposedly has recorded every outcome of every decision to every situation that could ever possibly occur. It's kind of like a butterfly effect map. It is after that that he searches out the HE and all the oddness ensues. There is a very good change Magneto knows absolutely everything that can and will happen and has the knowledge to shape it as he wishes. He would also know EXACTLY what he has to do to make it work, therefore all the strange/out of character things he has done may have a purpose.

[jlmoor]

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Btw, isn't it funny how none of the brilliant scientists could think of a support column??

H#$% S#$% are you F#$%@#$% kidding me??????? HAHAHAHAHA I was joking about this last week! Are the Atlanteans living in it? That was the 2nd part of the joke. I made a comment that Magneto would bring down the bullet then use it to prop up the island, then the Atlantean's could move in. I know it's not the bullet but OMG that's funny.

[Shaid O Gray]

Triple H.

Ohh, Wrestler, right?

Skids give Magneto a diary that supposedly has recorded every outcome of every decision to every situation that could ever possibly occur. It's kind of like a butterfly effect map. It is after that that he searches out the HE and all the oddness ensues. There is a very good change Magneto knows absolutely everything that can and will happen and has the knowledge to shape it as he wishes. He would also know EXACTLY what he has to do to make it work, therefore all the strange/out of character things he has done may have a purpose.

Wow, I'd completely forgotten about that. And I wonder if Marvel has too. Of course it could still be in play, but that makes his reaction to the news that Hope is alive rather odd. Or would that be more of a 'well in that case I should follow this path' thing?

H#$% S#$% are you F#$%@#$% kidding me??????? HAHAHAHAHA I was joking about this last week! Are the Atlanteans living in it? That was the 2nd part of the joke. I made a comment that Magneto would bring down the bullet then use it to prop up the island, then the Atlantean's could move in. I know it's not the bullet but OMG that's funny.

Oh yeah Nemesis lists the overwrought solutions they tried that failed, with all kinds of engines and whatnot. Then Magneto just goes "Oh yeah, that. I kinda solved that already."

Also great how no one NOTICED that the island is having a tower built right under it.

[Blaqueneto]

Skids give Magneto a diary that supposedly has recorded every outcome of every decision to every situation that could ever possibly occur. It's kind of like a butterfly effect map. It is after that that he searches out the HE and all the oddness ensues. There is a very good change Magneto knows absolutely everything that can and will happen and has the knowledge to shape it as he wishes. He would also know EXACTLY what he has to do to make it work, therefore all the strange/out of character things he has done may have a purpose.

The diary makes things interesting, but I'll be surprised if Fraction has it in mind. Magneto was also supposed to still have his powers, and that was ignored.

Btw, isn't it funny how none of the brilliant scientists could think of a support column??

H#$% S#$% are you F#$%@#$% kidding me??????? HAHAHAHAHA I was joking about this last week! Are the Atlanteans living in it? That was the 2nd part of the joke. I made a comment that Magneto would bring down the bullet then use it to prop up the island, then the Atlantean's could move in. I know it's not the bullet but OMG that's funny.

Magneto was spot-on by referring to them as "that ridiculous horde of scientists"

[jlmoor]

Wow, I'd completely forgotten about that. And I wonder if Marvel has too. Of course it could still be in play, but that makes his reaction to the news that Hope is alive rather odd. Or would that be more of a 'well in that case I should follow this path' thing?

I just think he faked the reaction. Or what you said. However, yeah marvel probably forgot about it. But since it was a Bru storyline, maybe not. He's pretty hot right now.

Oh yeah Nemesis lists the overwrought solutions they tried that failed, with all kinds of engines and whatnot. Then Magneto just goes "Oh yeah, that. I kinda solved that already."

Also great how no one NOTICED that the island is having a tower built right under it.

So it was the Atlanteans? I am soooooooooo psychic Is that why Scott winds up being pissed at him? For not asking? That was another prediction of mine.

[jlmoor]

The diary makes things interesting, but I'll be surprised if Fraction has it in mind. Magneto was also supposed to still have his powers, and that was ignored.

She said 'it says you're still a mutant' which could be interpretted that in the future he is a mutant (powered) which is what lead him to the HE (the diary). But yeah, they may not use it at all.

Magneto was spot-on by referring to them as "that ridiculous horde of scientists"

But I want him on the science team.

[Blaqueneto]

She said 'it says you're still a mutant' which could be interpretted that in the future he is a mutant (powered) which is what lead him to the HE (the diary).

That's possible.

But I want him on the science team.

Given that he's playing a big role in SC, I can't see him being put on the science team.

[jlmoor]

That's possible.

Given that he's playing a big role in SC, I can't see him being put on the science team.

Yeah I know. But maybe if that 'big part' does not include becoming a martyr, there will be new options. I know he's never work chemistry wise on the science team, especially if he thinks they are all a joke

[Kyle_Ion]

Anything in particular bringing you back into the fold? Or are you still on a comic enbargo? I think Tony is not having a very good time right now, but I'm lightyears behind on Iron Man. Charles is still pretty much treated like a douche in the x-books though

I would like to go back to reading collecting one of the X men titles, its just that I keep getting hung up with the whole Charles Xavier thing. I remember reading somewhere that Emma is stronger than Charles?

back on topic, what am I missing with magneto, whats he been up to? Is he back at full power?

[Blaqueneto]

So it was the Atlanteans? I am soooooooooo psychic Is that why Scott winds up being pissed at him? For not asking? That was another prediction of mine.

Pretty much. There's a chain of command, and "freakin" Magneto ignored it. Mags called him out on the double standards too.

[jlmoor]

I would like to go back to reading collecting one of the X men titles, its just that I keep getting hung up with the whole Charles Xavier thing. I remember reading somewhere that Emma is stronger than Charles?

back on topic, what am I missing with magneto, whats he been up to? Is he back at full power?

You could always opt for X-Force, they ignore the Charles issue and still have actual X-Men on the team.

Magneto! where to begin spoilers:

well if you see the post above, he wandered around feeling sorry for himself after HoM, and being generally rude to the Morlocks. See above for explination of the qwerty diary which may mean something later, but in all likelihood Marvel has completely forgot about it. After that, we find out he went to the High Evo to look for an answer who agreed to help him (even after telling Beast hell no go away). Magneto attacks the X-Men in San Francisco sicking Sentinels on them at the SFMOMA. He is using a suit made by the HE to simulate his powers which the x-Men destroy. At the end of that issue, we see Mags with the HE talking about how he dispises himself for what he has just done (I assume he is talking about the attack he just made on the X-Men, trolls deny this ever happened) and it is somewhat revealed the whole thing was just a distraction to get some Celestial brain matter from the Celestial in Golden Gate Park. Later we see that the HE was able to use this to restore Magneto's powers, but the machine was destroyed in the process and he nearly died. Next we see him showing up on Utopia after the X-Men Exodus of SF and kneeling down in front of Cyclops (yes, on his knees) basically saying 'Scott you're the man, and you've done what I couldn't, and since you're living in my old house, is it cool if I hang (paraphrasing). Scott says yeah, and Charles freaks out and tries to blast Magneto's mind. Scott tells Charles to stop then meets with Magneto and tells him EVERYTHING that is supposed to b all hush hush. 5 minutes later the island is attacked by monsters with metal skin. Magneto tears the skin off one of them and pretty much passes out. He makes some commment about being old yada yada and Nightcrawler helps him into bed. The only people that seem concerned about Magneto being there are Beast and Charles (which makes no sense since the parted on excellent terms in Legacy). Next you have the guy barely able to stand, yet in few panels later repowering some generator. Then he wanders off and makes a deal with Namor to save the sinking island (without discussing it with Scott). In X-Force he single handidly wipes out entire tribe of zombie people without so much as breaking a sweat. Then he is in Legacy putting the moves on Rogue................badly. Then back in Uncanny apparantly he is so feeble and weak he needs a cane to walk..........but somhow he is going to retireve a 10 miles long bullet from the other side of the universe to bring Kitty back. So that's where I am, but I have not read this weeks issue.

end of spoilers

[jlmoor]

Pretty much. There's a chain of command, and "freakin" Magneto ignored it. Mags called him out on the double standards too.

I was a hopin' and a prayin' that this is what Fraction was talking about when he said 'he'll hang himself soon'

I wonder if the people that got snotty and said that Kipling had better apologize when he goes evil are going to apologize if he does not.


OMG did Scott call him that again?