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    Magneto’s Children in X-Men or Avengers Movie?

    Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver could appear in Avengers or X-Men movies according to Marvel Films President Kevin Feige. In the comic books, the children of Magneto were introduced as part of his Brotherhood of Evil Mutants against the original X-Men. Wanda and Pietro Maximoff changed their ways and joined The Avengers. Both characters have suffered personal tragedies and been led back to the dark side. Quicksilver was married to Crystal of the Inhumans and have a daughter named Luna. Scarlet Witch married the Vision – an android. With the power of magic and her mutant hex powers, Wanda created and lost twin boys. Those boys became part of the Young Avengers and recently found and helped redeem the Scarlet Witch. The mutant will play a significant role in Avengers vs X-Men mega series.

    The characters are important to both X-Men and Avengers canon but each franchise is owned by rival studios.

    “It’s a little complicated,” Feige told Hey U Guys. “If they want to use them in the X-Men movies they could, if we want to use them in the Avengers movie we could.” Thanks to Digital Spy.

    This Geek’s Opinion: I’ve been saying for a while I hope the next X-Men: First Class prequel/sequel would introduce Magneto’s children: Polaris, Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver. Here are my thoughts on why the Swedish and American actresses who played The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo would be perfect fits for Wanda depending on the project. Now that I’ve seen The Hunger Games I think Alexander Ludwig would make a fantastic young Quicksilver. His role as the arrogant but ultimately tragic tribute made me think he’d be perfect for Magneto’s son.


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    I could see this coming quite awhile ago when the Avengers suddenly deciding after years of ignoring them they would do whatever it takes to redeem Wanda and Pietro.

    That said I only hope that Fox and Marvel come to an agreement on letting Wanda and Pietro on the second Avengers film if Lorna is in XMF #2. If not Lorna gets even more screwed over long term regarding the family. Right now they just seem to ignore her and pertend it didn't happen unless a writer really likes. If Wanda gets in Avengers #2 and Lorna doesn't get into XMF #2 then they might as well retcon Lorna out of the family again, because she will be effectively written out of the family again anyway. Too many people high up have the view that Magneto having two living daughters is too confusing and takes away from one of the specialness of one of them (cough Wanda).

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmc247 View Post
    I could see this coming quite awhile ago when the Avengers suddenly deciding after years of ignoring them they would do whatever it takes to redeem Wanda and Pietro.

    That said I only hope that Fox and Marvel come to an agreement on letting Wanda and Pietro on the second Avengers film if Lorna is in XMF #2. If not Lorna gets even more screwed over long term regarding the family. Right now they just seem to ignore her and pertend it didn't happen unless a writer really likes. If Wanda gets in Avengers #2 and Lorna doesn't get into XMF #2 then they might as well retcon Lorna out of the family again, because she will be effectively written out of the family again anyway. Too many people high up have the view that Magneto having two living daughters is too confusing and takes away from one of the specialness of one of them (cough Wanda).
    I like that the writer included Lorna- but its good that they cleared that bit up.

    What they could do is have them in both! Just different versions of the characters! Would be a win-win as far as I'm concerned. Apparently filming for the next FC film starts in January.
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    I was very happy with Aaron's depiction of Magneto and particularly his powers in the first AvX limited series. He is the first writer since Claremont to understand Magneto gets his power by using the electomagnetic fields of planets and stars and make that clear in a comic. That hasn't been made clear in a comic for Lorna since oh 2000.



    Its not a little deal to understand Magneto or Polaris themselves use the electromagnetic fields planets or stars they don't have a personal electromagnetic field equal to planets or stars inside themselves.

    His depiction of Magneto as a character in the comic was done quite well as well given all things being equal that he was in the middle of a battle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmc247 View Post
    I was very happy with Aaron's depiction of Magneto and particularly his powers in the first AvX limited series. He is the first writer since Claremont to understand Magneto gets his power by using the electomagnetic fields of planets and stars and make that clear in a comic. That hasn't been made clear in a comic for Lorna since oh 2000.



    Its not a little deal to understand Magneto or Polaris themselves use the electromagnetic fields planets or stars they don't have a personal electromagnetic field equal to planets or stars inside themselves.

    His depiction of Magneto as a character in the comic was done quite well as well given all things being equal that he was in the middle of a battle.
    I hate they had to create a reason for Mags to lose but beyond that this show how badass Mags still is and why the fight with the Avengers should not last long. I mean taking in enough power to show Tony what it feel like to be beat with a sun that's just NASTY.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timeismoney View Post
    I hate they had to create a reason for Mags to lose but beyond that this show how badass Mags still is and why the fight with the Avengers should not last long. I mean taking in enough power to show Tony what it feel like to be beat with a sun that's just NASTY.
    With the Avengers movie coming out it could have been worse, far worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmc247 View Post
    With the Avengers movie coming out it could have been worse, far worse.
    I agree cause it is a damn good movie, Marvel/ Disney need to get the rights back to Spider Man and the X Men.
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    Neal Adams and Chris Gage are telling a five issue early mutants story before Magneto was Magneto when he still hunted Nazis. It involves Wolverine and a number of other mutants as well and starts in August.

    http://www.coveritlive.com/index2.ph...thing_liveblog

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmc247 View Post
    Neal Adams and Chris Gage are telling a five issue early mutants story before Magneto was Magneto when he still hunted Nazis. It involves Wolverine and a number of other mutants as well and starts in August.

    http://www.coveritlive.com/index2.ph...thing_liveblog
    what's the point? Adams' Magneto is hideous. if it had Fassbender i might have been able to overlook how horrible this character lineup is. but nooooooo. they can trot this crap out but not even begin to flesh out Astra?

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    This is totally going to mess with Xavier/Magneto history that was already established.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teddyeatsyourface View Post
    This is totally going to mess with Xavier/Magneto history that was already established.
    Gage is a really good writer who does his homework. I doubt he will screw up Xavier and Magneto's established history. A story like this might not be free of continuity errors, but Gage isn't one to make one that big.

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    I just want to know what y'all think about Wanda and Hope teaming up in AVX 10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by timeismoney View Post
    I just want to know what y'all think about Wanda and Hope teaming up in AVX 10.
    We know too little at this point in AvX for me to form an opinion about it. Maybe in a month I will have a better understanding of how thing 'evolve' in the course of the series.

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    I read the final two issues of Children's Crusade on Saturday finally and I must stay it was a stellar comic. Brilliantly written and each character was spot-on in characterization (except Emma perhaps)- the art of course was fantastic and Heinberg did a brilliant job of finally progressing the Scarlet Witch storyline and giving it some sort of resolution and conclusion- so we know now that the power she sought pretty much corrupted and influenced her to the point of insanity- much like the Phoenix can. I do think and I know she is partially responsible for seeking it- but I think the consequent insanity means that she's not truly responsible for what happened- I think it redeemed Wanda which I'm happy about.

    The storyline, psychologically for Wanda, was handled quite realistically- the guilt and remorse is evident even if she knows it wasn't entirely herself and it explains her actions since. Perhaps I'm not as judgmental as Scott- but whether you like it or not- Wanda will forever live with that guilt and that's the price she's payed for being selfish initially and I agree that's her punishment. She'll never be able to forgive herself I think for all the deaths, trauma and terror that happened as a result of decimation. She may be back- but I actually think things will never be the same for her unfortunately.

    I loved how Magneto and Quicksilver were handled in this and how for once them and Wanda got along, co-operated and acted like family members- with care and love. I think this is one of the greatest progresses of this series because the family has gone through enough strife that its good to finally see them unite over something- I hope the attitude the twins had towards Magneto in AvX is not long-lasting and more of a continuity error and that soon we will seem the family act maturely and reasonably towards eachother rather than argue. I want to see more of the subtlety and depth we saw in these issues then the same old stereotypical attitudes. I mean- I don't expect any of is children to be entirely forgiving and loving towards him considering history- but it's good to seethe character relationship progress and mature.

    Wiccan and Speed usually annoy me as characters but I was very happy regarding the possible engagement of Wiccan and Hulkling as I think it's a nice nudge to the legalization of same-sex marriage in New York and what it means for them not just as a couple but a gay couple. I like that Speed continued to want to act as a hero when the team disbanded... I don't know if Wiccan will accept being an Avenger after their recent rejection of Wanda though. he connection between Wanda and the twins has been quite heartening in these issues.

    A brilliant story completely worth the wait. Thank you Alan Heinberg for giving the time and patience to write this brilliant story. :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitteloss View Post
    The storyline, psychologically for Wanda, was handled quite realistically- the guilt and remorse is evident even if she knows it wasn't entirely herself and it explains her actions since. Perhaps I'm not as judgmental as Scott- but whether you like it or not- Wanda will forever live with that guilt and that's the price she's payed for being selfish initially and I agree that's her punishment. She'll never be able to forgive herself I think for all the deaths, trauma and terror that happened as a result of decimation. She may be back- but I actually think things will never be the same for her unfortunately.
    So she feels bad about it forever, what consolation is that for her victims or their famililes? She killed untold amount of people world wide, several children on panel. Maybe it wasn't her intention, but everyone that hits someone with a car and kills them doesn't intend to do either but there's still consequences. It's not even that she's not facing any legal ramfications, it's that it's not even public knowledge so the loved ones of the dead don't even get an explanation for why there family members were struck down. I didn't like the direction that they took Wanda in but at least if they followed it through, like they did with the Dark Phoenix it would be worthwhile storyline.
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    I find it interesting that Dark Seduction has never been rereleased in trade. Its got the Avengers, some X-Men, the entire Magnus family all fighting it out. I would have thought they would have done so by now.

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