Marc Webb/Andrew Garfield's 2012 Spider-Man movie megathread

[hotrodx]

@Dangerous

I think they're both fine. But I'd go for Emma here, since the reboot is rumored to concentrate on the high school part a la Ultimate Spider-man. MJ doesn't have to be a supermodel type yet, just the girl-next-door type who likes to party and a contrast to sweet Gwen.

Oh, and for the record, I liked Kirsten as MJ. She did what she was asked of the material, manfeet or otherwise.

[Andrew T]

Peter Parker shouldn't be that good looking. He is a geek who girls wouldn't even look twice at.

And anyway, Garfield isn't ugly and he looks like Ultimate Peter Parker.

Before he got spider-bit, maybe. And even then Jessica Jones apparently had a crush on him.

I think she'll make a stellar Ultimate MJ (I assume that's what they're going for, not that she couldn't pull of 616 MJ far better than Kirsten Dunst), but I wa sunder the impression that MJ wasn't even going to appear in this film. What happened to that idea?

[derekakadrock]

OK try these on for size
None of these are air brushed, fact is MEW is a straight up perfect 10 and her body is bangin-



She even has perfect feet.
Check these bad boys out - I could suck on them for a week!



I don't mean to sound shallow or mean, I'm not saying Emma Stone can't act. BUT MARY JANE WATSON IS A FREAKING SUPERMODEL!!!
She is not the character from the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon (which is an awesome Spidey show btw). Why can't they ever get it right?

MJ's character- the party girl, who is super confident, who every guy loves, who uses this to cover up her troubled family life.. her character and all it's depth is AS important as the way she looks in terms of what makes MJ MJ. It's 50/50. COMICBOOKS ARE A VISUAL MEDIUM! Her visual identity is as integral to the way she is written. It's not like they are adapting characters from regular novels.

The guy playing like PP looks nothing like PP, he looks like he has been hit by the ugly stick a few times (whereas PP is very good looking) and Emma Stone? She looks like some kind of carni, circus folk person.



I don't to sound mean, or like some superficial a-hole, but imagine if they had got some average slightly weird looking girl to play Betty Page in the BP movie, BP fans would have been pissed right? well this is the same thing!

The looks are AS important as the acting chops in these parts.
What good is someone who can act a comicbook character, if they don't look anything like them? I don't see this casting choice as being any better than Kirsten Dunst. It's another disaster.

Look at Chris Evans as Cap - Now that is perfect casting on a visual level.
He's got the body, he's got the right hair, he is good looking.
Why can't they do that in a Spidey film?

It's not just about looks. Stone embodies many of the classic personality traits of MJ - playful, independent and sassy, but sharp and level-headed. Yes, she's certainly not the "hottest" choice, but she has a striking resemblance to the Romita Sr. MJ and is a great actress, regardless of her seeming "flavor of the month" status right now. It's the sum of the parts. They can always make her more attractive with makeup if it's THAT big a deal.

We also have to consider this is high school age Spider-Man, and how many 15-year-olds are "straight up perfect 10's" anyway?

But then, I think Andrew Garfield looks just like Peter Parker too (who isn't supposed to be conventionally attractive, by the way).

[stewart48]

But then, I think Andrew Garfield looks just like Peter Parker too (who isn't supposed to be conventionally attractive, by the way).

Yet somehow the ladies found him conventionally attractive within the first year of ASM's run.

That aside I've warmed up to it. I shouldn't be allowed to post or say anything when I'm pissed about UGA football, I generally have a bad, negative attitude about all things during or after a bad game.

Sleep and a new day brings a different perspective

[RDMacQ]

I think people are getting hung up on the whole "MJ is supposed to be a supermodel" thing. But that doesn't mean that she has to conform to a specific body type or look.

I mean, look at Kate Moss.



Not entirely unattractive, but not exactly on the same level as someone like Cindy Crawford.



The actress who portrays MJ doesn't have to look like a supermodel to portray the character, especially since the conditions for what it takes to BE a supermodel can vary so widely.

I think Emma is a good choice because she not only looks a lot like the character from the comics, but also because she's a good actress. I'd rather have someone who can have the audience sympathize with the character via her performance rather than someone who is just fun to look at. Unless we want a repeat of Jessica Alba as Sue Storm.

[derekakadrock]

Yet somehow the ladies found him conventionally attractive within the first year of ASM's run.

I don't remember any of them being interested in him for his looks, but more for his inner qualities. Betty liked him because he appeared to be the thoughtful, stay-at-home type. Liz didn't even pay attention to him until he started showing more confidence. Gwen was at first intrigued by him because he wasn't fawning all over her like every other guy. The latter two girls also admired his intelligence, and there were quite a few thought balloons from each of these ladies about how "I can't put my finger on it, but there's something so strong, so noble about Peter Parker!"

I mean, yeah, he wasn't ugly, but he wasn't obviously handsome either.

But we're getting off-topic.

[RDMacQ]

I don't remember any of them being interested in him for his looks, but more for his inner qualities. Betty liked him because he appeared to be the thoughtful, stay-at-home type. Liz didn't even pay attention to him until he started showing more confidence. Gwen was at first intrigued by him because he didn't notice her. The latter two girls also admired his intelligence, and there were quite a few thought balloons from each of these ladies about how "I can't put my finger on it, but there's something so strong, so noble about Peter Parker!"

I mean, yeah, he wasn't ugly, but he wasn't obviously handsome either.

But we're getting off-topic.

Well, Wolverine's supposed to be pretty unattractive as well. And look who they got to play him. Who has done a pretty good job representing the character.

Sometimes looks aren't everything. Sometimes it's about who is the best person for the part. I think Emma Stone would be a good choice since she just so happens to be a good actress, but also manages to look like the character she might portray as an added bonus.

[Sighphi]

I think people are getting hung up on the whole "MJ is supposed to be a supermodel" thing. But that doesn't mean that she has to conform to a specific body type or look.

I mean, look at Kate Moss.



Not entirely unattractive, but not exactly on the same level as someone like Cindy Crawford.



The actress who portrays MJ doesn't have to look like a supermodel to portray the character, especially since the conditions for what it takes to BE a supermodel can vary so widely.

I think Emma is a good choice because she not only looks a lot like the character from the comics, but also because she's a good actress. I'd rather have someone who can have the audience sympathize with the character via her performance rather than someone who is just fun to look at. Unless we want a repeat of Jessica Alba as Sue Storm.

Yeah, when we are talking about MJ being super model hot we are obviously talking about Cindy levels of hot. Not the, "Oh, this chick sort of looks interesting." Kate Moss hot.

[derekakadrock]

Well, Wolverine's supposed to be pretty unattractive as well. And look who they got to play him. Who has done a pretty good job representing the character.

Sometimes looks aren't everything. Sometimes it's about who is the best person for the part. I think Emma Stone would be a good choice since she just so happens to be a good actress, but also manages to look like the character she might portray as an added bonus.

I'm not sure what this has to do with my post. I'm all for the casting of both Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone.

[stewart48]

I don't remember any of them being interested in him for his looks, but more for his inner qualities. Betty liked him because he appeared to be the thoughtful, stay-at-home type. Liz didn't even pay attention to him until he started showing more confidence. Gwen was at first intrigued by him because he wasn't fawning all over her like every other guy. The latter two girls also admired his intelligence, and there were quite a few thought balloons from each of these ladies about how "I can't put my finger on it, but there's something so strong, so noble about Peter Parker!"

I mean, yeah, he wasn't ugly, but he wasn't obviously handsome either.

But we're getting off-topic.

He got the human torch's girlfriend too.

[RyanParkerMan]

Peter Parker shouldn't be that good looking. He is a geek who girls wouldn't even look twice at.

And anyway, Garfield isn't ugly and he looks like Ultimate Peter Parker.

As far as the comics go, your right!
Peter is not very handsome in highscool. He grows into his looks as he gets older.

[Dangerous]

@Dangerous

I think they're both fine. But I'd go for Emma here, since the reboot is rumored to concentrate on the high school part a la Ultimate Spider-man. MJ doesn't have to be a supermodel type yet, just the girl-next-door type who likes to party and a contrast to sweet Gwen.

Oh, and for the record, I liked Kirsten as MJ. She did what she was asked of the material, manfeet or otherwise.

'Girl next door type' does not mean anything in terms of looks.
MJ WAS supermodel hot when she was 15, see ASM#42 ;)
Finally u liked Kirsten as MJ. Nuff said

It's not just about looks.

I didn't say it was.
I said it was 50/50.

We also have to consider this is high school age Spider-Man, and how many 15-year-olds are "straight up perfect 10's" anyway?

Well Mary Jane Watson was...
Hang on, isn't that who this actress is supposed to be playing? ;)

But then, I think Andrew Garfield looks just like Peter Parker too (who isn't supposed to be conventionally attractive, by the way).

Seriously, are you blind?
HE LOOKS NOTHING LIKE HIM.

He has the same hair colour.
THAT'S IT.

Garfield


Here is Peter Parker by the definitive Spidey artist.


He is very handsome and basically perfect looking.
It don't matter if your perception of Petey is that he- 'is not supposed to be conventionally attractive' fact remains- HE IS!
DEAL WITH IT.

I'd rather have someone who can have the audience sympathize with the character via her performance rather than someone who is just fun to look at.

Why do a lot of you seem to be under the impression that good looks negates acting ability? There are plenty of good looking actresses out there who can act(ones much better looking than Emma Stone), especially to the level that is required in a Superhero film! Let’s face it Sony are not going for the same audience as the TDK here.

I don't remember any of them being interested in him for his looks, but more for his inner qualities. Betty liked him because he appeared to be the thoughtful, stay-at-home type. Liz didn't even pay attention to him until he started showing more confidence. Gwen was at first intrigued by him because he wasn't fawning all over her like every other guy. The latter two girls also admired his intelligence, and there were quite a few thought balloons from each of these ladies about how "I can't put my finger on it, but there's something so strong, so noble about Peter Parker!"

I mean, yeah, he wasn't ugly, but he wasn't obviously handsome either.

But we're getting off-topic.

Talking about the Ditko era, yea he wasn't good looking then but to talk about the Ditko-Romita transition in terms of Peter's looks.. I think we can put it down to this-

He was always very handsome and good looking. It's just that as teen, pre-spider bite and during his first year or two as Spidey his confidence was growing and he was still in geek mode when he was in his civies- hunching over, wearing glasses, dressing badly and often walking around in a world of his own fretting over his problems that made him seem like some weedy distant weirdo. Once he had been Spidey for a year or two, his confidence came out more when he was PP and he shed the specs etc and once Romita was on art duties and he stood up straight with good posture you could see that he was actually totally handsome.

Point is- Peter was and has always been obviously handsome ever since ASM#39.

Yeah, when we are talking about MJ being super model hot we are obviously talking about Cindy levels of hot. Not the, "Oh, this chick sort of looks interesting." Kate Moss hot.

Exactly

At the end of the day lots of u are happy about the casting, that’s cool.
I am not. I’m not as irked about it as I was about it in 2002, but then I have learned to not prophesize the Spider-Man movie to be a defining moment in my life because it will only disappoint as they seem reluctant to have a go at doing 616 Spidey on the big screen.

I’m a purist, I HATE USM.

I like the REAL Spidey only, not some BS reinterpretation.
So there ya go, this film is probably gonna be based on that sh*tty comic.
Ironically tho, I bet it’s called ‘The Amazing Spider-Man’ because ‘USM’ sounds stupid.

[NickFury90]

Very rarely do superhero movies have actors that look exactly like the comic versions. Christian Bale looks nothing like any Bruce Wayne I've seen, but he still did the best live-action job I've seen.

[RDMacQ]

Why do a lot of you seem to be under the impression that good looks negates acting ability? There are plenty of good looking actresses out there who can act(ones much better looking than Emma Stone), especially to the level that is required in a Superhero film! Let’s face it Sony are not going for the same audience as the TDK here.

Good looks don't negate acting ability. But having good looks does not automatically mean that one HAS any acting ability. Emma Stone has the best combo- she can act AND she looks a lot like the character of MJ.

[stewart48]

As far as the comics go, your right!
Peter is not very handsome in highscool. He grows into his looks as he gets older.

Maybe the girls he was getting in the first 25 issues released on ipad are blurring my memory, causing me to misremember liz and betting saying he was cute, but since he lost the glasses girls eyed him a bit more and he always had the jawline of traditional good looking super heroes.

Ultimate Spidey is a different story. Pete stayed geeky and MJ and Harry,initially, are what kept him around the social circles of the "popular in school," characters