Marc Webb/Andrew Garfield's 2012 Spider-Man movie megathread

[Jake V]

Just literally. That he made it himself.

And the "I don't think you really wanna know..." part?

[Probalus]

I'm not sure that really helps either of them right now. The movies they're putting out are record breakers. It's unlikely that combining them would make a significantly MORE record breaking movie.

That is to say, Avengers made a billion dollars. It's unlikely adding Spider-Man will make them significantly more than a million dollars, but would come with an increased budget and Disney only gets half the cash. Spider-Man movies have only made 300-400 million, but in order to reap that much from a combined effort, you'd have to pull in 700-800 million dollars (and again, with that increased cost of the movie), which is definitively not a guaranteed thing (it puts you in the top 50 grossing movies of all time). And remember, that number is just to pull in the same amount of cash as they do with the movies by themselves, and to do so at a much greater risk.

Essentially, Marvel is making just about as much money as they're going to make already, and Sony might be able to make more, but only by taking a risk and hoping for a record breaker. And that's if they get half the cash (which may not even be the case).

You're numbers are off. Spider-Man movies made between $780 to $900 million each worldwide. It used to be the highest grossing superhero franchise before Nolan came around.

And they did it without inflated 3d prices which helped Avengers a lot.

[Mister Mets]

And the "I don't think you really wanna know..." part?

He pretended to sneeze a few seconds later. It was the setup to a booger joke.

[derekakadrock]

What the bloody hell did I just watch!? Why the hell did he make a semen joke!? That's something I'd expect from Saturday Night Live, not Spider-Man! Fuck this movie!

I'm sorry, but if you're interpreting the webbing line as a joke about ejaculation, you're clearly looking for reasons to dismiss this movie. And judging by your past posts about it, I'm probably not wrong.

He even points to the webshooter on his wrist when he's talking about it. There's no room for ambiguity.

[Kevinroc]

The music cues are really dark in that scene. If I didn't know better, I'd swear I would half-expect Norman to pop up and snap Gwen's neck right in front of Peter.

[MorningMoon]

And the "I don't think you really wanna know..." part?

That it's complicated science stuff that would bore the car thief, and Peter would probably get frustrated even explaining it.

I think there is a semen joke... if you're about thirteen and really look for it.

[stillanerd]

Okay, with regards to the carjacker clip now that we've seen in full, there are quite a few question I have:

1. How did Spidey get into the back seat of a locked car before the carjacker broke into it? Does he have Nightcrawler's powers now?

2. If he somehow managed to get into the car before the carjacker, how did Spidey know which car the carjacker would break into beforehand? I guess his spider-sense is now full-blown precognition?

3. How does the carjacker not even notice Spider-Man is in the backseat of the car? Granted it is somewhat dark, but I think it would be pretty darn easy to see somebody in a red and blue outfit sitting in the backseat. Unless the guy is really that visually impaired.

4. When Spidey first webs the guy inside the car, you can see that the web attaches to both the carjacker's mouth and arm. But then in the very next cut, they've suddenly vanished. So where did the webbing go? I thought it was supposed to dissolve in an hour, not instantaneously. Nice consistency with the visual effects there, filmmakers.

5. How does Spidey get out of the back seat of the car and behind the carjacker without opening the back door or rolling down the windows? I don't remember seeing the inside light coming on which usually happens when anyone opens a car door. More teleportation powers, I guess.

6. If this scene is taking place as rumored spoilers:

after Uncle Ben is killed but before he apprehends his Uncle's killer (he's apparently checking the carjacker's wrist to see if he has the same tattoo as the guy who killed Uncle Ben) then why is Spidey making with the wisecracking, as well as being a complete douchebag besides? Spider-Man fans know that whenever someone he loves gets killed or seriously hurt, Spidey stops making jokes. If Spidey merely suspected this guy killed his Uncle, I doubt he would be toying with him and acting like a complete douche towards him.

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7. When an abbreviated version of this scene showed up months earlier, Marc Webb explained that the reason why Spidey is acting the way he is at that moment is because he's "feeling drunk on his power" and "having a really good time." But if this scene is taking place spoilers:

after his Uncle Ben's murder, wouldn't he have stopped "feeling drunk on his power?"

end of spoilers

8. What kind of cop (even if it is a New York cop) tries to shoot a person and nearly kills another in the process immediately after he tells the guy to freeze? Granted, Spidey is making a move towards him somewhat, but hasn't this cop ever heard of the concept of a "warning shot?"

9. What brought the motorcycle cop there in the first place? More importantly, what brought all the other cop cars there? We didn't exactly see the motorcycle cop call for back-up. Did they all respond to shots being fired within a span of ten seconds? Were they part of some sting operation to catch the carjacker that Spidey inadvertently interfered with? Was the guy parking the car part of it? If so, how do the cops know that was the car the carjacker would steal? And if it was a sting operation, why go through all this effort to catch one measly carjacker?

10. Why is Spidey, a guy who can literally leap across buildings, climb walls, and has devices which allow him to create webbing for him to swing on, literally running away from the scene down a busy street? If he's able to somersault over that cop with such ease, what was to stop him from leaping onto the building and scampering away? Wouldn't that have been safer as opposed to running into traffic and leaping onto moving vehicles?

I know, it seems like I'm nitpicking and this is a two minute scene out of a 136 minute-long movie so we have yet to see it in it's proper context, but as it stands, nothing about this scene, IMO, makes any sense whatsoever.

[EmperorKell-El]

I'm hyped for this movie.

[Randumbz]

Okay, with regards to the carjacker clip now that we've seen in full, there are quite a few question I have:

1. How did Spidey get into the back seat of a locked car before the carjacker broke into it? Does he have Nightcrawler's powers now?

2. If he somehow managed to get into the car before the carjacker, how did Spidey know which car the carjacker would break into beforehand? I guess his spider-sense is now full-blown precognition?

3. How does the carjacker not even notice Spider-Man is in the backseat of the car? Granted it is somewhat dark, but I think it would be pretty darn easy to see somebody in a red and blue outfit sitting in the backseat. Unless the guy is really that visually impaired.

4. When Spidey first webs the guy inside the car, you can see that the web attaches to both the carjacker's mouth and arm. But then in the very next cut, they've suddenly vanished. So where did the webbing go? I thought it was supposed to dissolve in an hour, not instantaneously. Nice consistency with the visual effects there, filmmakers.

5. How does Spidey get out of the back seat of the car and behind the carjacker without opening the back door or rolling down the windows? I don't remember seeing the inside light coming on which usually happens when anyone opens a car door. More teleportation powers, I guess.

6. If this scene is taking place as rumored spoilers:

after Uncle Ben is killed but before he apprehends his Uncle's killer (he's apparently checking the carjacker's wrist to see if he has the same tattoo as the guy who killed Uncle Ben) then why is Spidey acting like his typical wisecracking self? Spider-Man fans know that whenever someone he loves gets killed or seriously hurt, Spidey stops making jokes. If Spidey merely suspected this guy killed his Uncle, I doubt he would be toying with him and acting like a complete douche towards him.

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7. When an abbreviated version of this scene showed up months earlier, Marc Webb explained that the reason why Spidey is acting the way he is at that moment is because he's "feeling drunk on his power" and "having a really good time." But if this scene is taking place spoilers:

after his Uncle Ben's murder, wouldn't he have stopped "feeling drunk on his power?"

end of spoilers

8. What kind of cop (even if it is a New York cop) tries to shoot a person and nearly kills another in the process immediately after he tells the guy to freeze? Granted, Spidey is making a move towards him somewhat, but hasn't this cop ever heard of the concept of a "warning shot?"

9. What brought the motorcycle cop there in the first place? More importantly, what brought all the other cop cars there? We didn't exactly see the motorcycle cop call for back-up. Did they all respond to shots being fired within a span of ten seconds? Were they part of some sting operation to catch the carjacker that Spidey inadvertently interfered with? Was the guy parking the car part of it? If so, how do the cops know that was the car the carjacker would steal? And if it was a sting operation, why go through all this effort to catch one measly carjacker?

10. Why is Spidey, a guy who can literally leap across buildings, climb walls, and has devices which allow him to create webbing for him to swing on, literally running away from the scene. If he's able to somersault over that cop with such ease, what was to stop him from leaping onto the building and scampering away? Wouldn't that have been safer as opposed to running into traffic and leaping onto moving vehicles?

I know, it seems like I'm nitpicking and this is a two minute scene out of a 136 minute-long movie so we have yet to see it in it's proper context, but as it stands, nothing about this scene, IMO, makes any sense whatsoever.

The answer to your first 5 questions are: spider-man is a bad ass. The answers to the other questions are: watch the movie and find out lol

[stillanerd]

The music cues are really dark in that scene. If I didn't know better, I'd swear I would half-expect Norman to pop up and snap Gwen's neck right in front of Peter.

And considering how this clip obviously follows the carjacker one, the music cues then become all triumphant and jubilant. This it's like right after Norman snaps Gwen's neck, Spidey's all "hip hip hooray!"

[Kevinroc]

And considering how this clip obviously follows the carjacker one, the music cues then become all triumphant and jubilant. This it's like right after Norman snaps Gwen's neck, Spidey's all "hip hip hooray!"

Well, you'd be cheering too because it means you can finally hook up with Mary Jane.

[Xenon]

You're numbers are off. Spider-Man movies made between $780 to $900 million each worldwide. It used to be the highest grossing superhero franchise before Nolan came around.

And they did it without inflated 3d prices which helped Avengers a lot.

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ah, yeah I just went off the search results which only gave me domestic results. Tricky. My mistake.

Doesn't change the end result though. Sony is just moved into Marvel's position. Extremely unlikely that the cross-promotion is going to get all that many people that the Avengers or Spider-Man didn't get by themselves. I'm still not entirely sure how Avatar did what it did, honestly.

[Confuzzled Mutie]

I'm still not entirely sure how Avatar did what it did, honestly.

3D novelty, Cameron hype and the fact that it was a winter release like Titanic (Avatar basically did not have anything to compete against for months except for the first Sherlock Holmes film).

[President Kang]

Yeah, seriously, when it some studio going to get the bright idea to release a superhero flick in December like Cameron did with Titanic & Avatar wherein they're big openings and then just keep basically doing the same numbers for months because January & February are wastelands.

Oh well, I guess they *really* want them as Christmas presents DVD/Blu Rays, which is also another revenue stream.

[Probalus]

*checks*

ah, yeah I just went off the search results which only gave me domestic results. Tricky. My mistake.

Doesn't change the end result though. Sony is just moved into Marvel's position. Extremely unlikely that the cross-promotion is going to get all that many people that the Avengers or Spider-Man didn't get by themselves. I'm still not entirely sure how Avatar did what it did, honestly.

The thing is part of Avengers success and appeal came from the novelty factor of having heroes from multiple movies teamup. Somehow they need to bring in more fresh faces or risk the sequel not performing at the same level. Spider-Man might be a good way to do it.