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    Default CBR: Decade in Review: Trends & Tops of the '00s

    The CBR News crew takes one last look at some of the trends of the past decade and then turns their collective attention towards naming their personal picks for the top books, creators and more from the last ten years!


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    Interesting article - but the clean sweep of Marvel at the end surprised me.

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    They were pretty much right on all points. Marvel pretty much owned that whole decade.

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    Has Marvel ever not held the majority of the market?
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    I think we should remember that the 00's are the rise of the zombie Genre

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    I also think that Toonami had something to do with the rise and fall of Manga, a lot of young american interest was generated there and when it went away...

    I think DC did a better job of thier events though, unlike Marvel instantly retconning Spidermans unmasking in civil war and other uninspiring events.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olympichero62 View Post
    They were pretty much right on all points. Marvel pretty much owned that whole decade.
    I guess they have to say that 'cause they work for CBR, but the correct answer is VIZ.

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    Yep. Make Mine Marvel as well. Marvel has the best writers in the business and they've shown they're great at finding artists as well.
    Always makes me giggle.

    Dude.

    They have the best writers in the limted area of comics that you personally pay attention too - You admitted that you don't read OGN's where the REALLY good stuff is happenin' right now. (Although not, I suppose, 'cause of better writers as much as loosening of format, content, and TIME restrictions.)
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    Also: Where'd K. P. go half-way through?
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    Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. There are plenty of writers & artists out there that I don't particularly like but can understand why others might.

    Having said that, someone saying Bendis is the writer of the decade is like someone telling me Transformers 2 is the movie of the year. It seems that these same guys complaining about Wizard seem to be regurgitating a lot of the same inane bile.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SMARTASS8 View Post
    It seems that these same guys complaining about Wizard seem to be regurgitating a lot of the same inane bile.
    I was actually thinking the same thing.

    As for all the trashing of Wizard, I disagree and think it is unfair. It is by no means a scholarly magazine, but was actually a very entertaining read for many years. Before the internet, I discovered a lot of really great books because they were mentioned in Wizard. I learned a great deal about many industry pros, the industry itself and I got a few chuckles out of mag as well.
    Granted the mag seems to have lost its way over the past couple of years, I can't stand the new format, but there is still the occasional useful article. I just think they spent too many years focusing on the collectible market, which is still around but not quite as prominent as in the 90's, instead of the fan market that really drives comic book sales.
    I am one of the old guys who enjoy reading my print magazines, but almost every print mag I enjoyed has now been converted to internet only source or disappeared completely. While I do check out the internet sources such as CBR , I don't read the info sites as thoroughly nor do I depend on them as much for info as I do my mags. I for one don't want to see Wizard, flawed as it is, fail.
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    I'm not going to belittle their opinions, but I do disagree. The things that go on in Marvel comics just seem ridiculous to me. But if someone thinks Jersey Shore is the best show on T.V., I won't say they are wrong but I will respectfully disagree with that as well. It's all a matter of opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reptisaurus! View Post
    "They were pretty much right on all points. Marvel pretty much owned that whole decade."

    I guess they have to say that 'cause they work for CBR, but the correct answer is VIZ.

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    "Yep. Make Mine Marvel as well. Marvel has the best writers in the business and they've shown they're great at finding artists as well."

    Always makes me giggle.

    Dude.

    They have the best writers in the limted area of comics that you personally pay attention too - You admitted that you don't read OGN's where the REALLY good stuff is happenin' right now. (Although not, I suppose, 'cause of better writers as much as loosening of format, content, and TIME restrictions.)
    Yeah, not only is Marvel an extremely narrow cross-section of comics (superheroes, Criminal, Marvel Classics Illustrated...anything else?), the odds of throwing a dart and finding a good book aren't that great. Publishers like Fantagraphics, D & Q, or NBM have a much better proportion of quality books. Like you emphasize, it's not just subject matter, it's that Fantagraphics et al. actually commission creators to write books, not fill paper and maintain trademarks; the quality of the work reflects it. They are actual book publishers.

    Not to hate--Marvel has put out some really enjoyable things, and on rare occasions can be thought provoking, but it's like a film studio that only produces action movies. Yeah, they can be great, but there's a lot missing.

    Also, it's a real shame to me to see creators like Matt Fraction, Jonathan Hickman, and Kieron Gillen go from innovative, personal, ambitious indie work to Iron Man, FF, and Thor (i. e., paying gigs!). I hope they follow the Ellis route more than the Bendis route.
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    Has anyone seen this direct response from Michael Pinto on Fanboy.com about the status of Manga this year? He seems to take issue with the idea that the popularity of manga has faltered in recent years, and asserts that we are instead at the beginning of a new new comic book art/manga revolution.

    I just thought it was a nice counterpoint to the article.

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    Yeah, I'm in the "what fall of manga?" category here. I don't buy much myself (and when I do it's usually the classics, like Buddha or Lone Wolf and Cub), but there's certainly a hell of a lot of it in the bookstores.

    Regarding writers over artists: maybe, but I'm not reading Detective for Rucka, and I'd give the Whedon/Cassaday run on X-Men a slight edge over the Morrison/Many Hands due to the consistently high quality of Cassaday's work compared to the unevenness of Morrison's collaborators (I think Morrison's writing was stronger, though I do love Whedon). There are probably more writers on my "I'll read anything by that guy" list than artists, but there are definitely guys like Allred, Pope, and Veitch who I'll follow no matter what they do. (Okay...so I could only make it through one issue of The Golden Plates. But I was willing to check it out!)

    I don't think the problem with the Image bubble was the art-over-writing ethos, it was the fact that everything was so staggeringly adolescent. Art-over-writing doesn't have to mean style-over-substance -- just look at Kirby's work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thad View Post
    Yeah, I'm in the "what fall of manga?" category here. I don't buy much myself (and when I do it's usually the classics, like Buddha or Lone Wolf and Cub), but there's certainly a hell of a lot of it in the bookstores.
    I think it's more the Fall of Tokyopop. But there does, at least colloquially, seem to be a bit of a leveling out of the manga market. This is hardly a scientific poll, but there were a lot more manga-related names posting on the board a couple years ago. But I think it's less the fall of manga, more that the initial manga bubble may have popped? Fall is way too strong a word, but the new Naruto hasn't come out to be the new big thing.
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