Doctor Doom Appreciation

[Ood Omega]

Has this piece of awesome been posted? Because it needs to have been...

This is a great design. Do you happen to know who the artist is?

[Willow616]

This is a great design. Do you happen to know who the artist is?

Feck me! Thats a work of beauty!

[marshal99]

Sean Thornton.

http://seanwthornton.deviantart.com/gallery/

That doom piece was shown in a recent exhibition i believe
http://411posters.com/2013/05/hero-c...-arch-nemesis/

[DoomScribe]

Cool find, heiro5! I meant to save this when I came across it then forgot. I also have on my PC something someone did with a Game of Thrones/Doom tie in.

You need to post that!

[Rheged]

Do you guys think Doom will end up joining the Illuminati? I think Namor is going to get pushed aside due to the Wakandan War and what could potentially be happening with Atlantis in Infinity. If that happens I definitely think the group will need a new Villain Protagonist to bounce off of the heroes and force them to confront their ideals.

Namor is NOT the Villain Protagonist of the Illuminati.

I was thinking about this recently and since I'm a huge Panther fan I'll field this one. Panther clearly has no love for Doom because of Doomwar, however T'challa allowed Doom to leave with his life and without arrest following that story. So I guess Marvel is considering that resolved. If he can work with Namor who he believes betrayed him to Doom, and then flooded his home killing thousands, he should be able to work with Doom easily.

No way he considers him an ally or trusts him, but he can definitely work with him out of necessity.

T'challa does NOT believe Namor betrayed him to Doom -- that's never been said or implied. And it was Phoenix Namor who flooded Wakanda. And considering the circumstances, any of the Illuminati can work with just about anyone.

Thanks for the reply....didn't you think there was something strange about the way the Namor/BP/Doom aspect of Doomwar started in Hudlin's BP run? I think you might remember some of the discussions that went on at the time. Somewhere along the line, a writer maybe, tried to say BP met Namor in some stronghold of his near the ocean and Doom just showed up. But I am pretty sure T'Challa and the Dora Milaje set a course for Europe. And Namor had just blown up Atlantis and Doom offered him shelter for himself and some Atlantean troops. Namor had to be in Latveria and had to be close by when the attack got underway. But he ended up joining the allies briefly at the beginning of Doomwar but disappeared for the rest of its run. Why wouldn't Namor and T'Challa mention to Reed that they all knew about the Cabal was one thing that kind of nagged me.

I really thought something else was brewing from that but it got dropped, much like that plot that Brubaker had in Captain America about a possible ancestor of Doom's in medieval Germany who constructed giant mechanical men.

It wasn't strange, it was simply badly written and made all the characters look bad. There's absolutely no fictional reason that Namor would even have told T'challa about the Cabal.

I hadn't heard any thing like that -- I thought it said outright the meeting was in Latveria?

[Rheged]

Sean Thornton.

http://seanwthornton.deviantart.com/gallery/

That doom piece was shown in a recent exhibition i believe
http://411posters.com/2013/05/hero-c...-arch-nemesis/

That anti-travel poster is awesome! Though I think I'd have gone with something a bit more subtle, text wise, than 'DO NOT visit Latveria.' Maybe, "Visit beautiful and scenic Latveria. Littering punishable by death."


On the DAVID MICHELINIE front ....

I was horrified to learn that not so long ago, Marvel greenlit a sequel to EMPEROR DOOM, and he turned in a plot, but through what sounds like editorial ... waffling (I'm being kind), the project fell to the wayside! This was in the panel and I didn't get a chance to get more info, but I will try to do so tomorrow. However, if you see any editors at a con, be sure to ask about this sequel and it's fate. We've got to let them know that we WANT to see it. Ditto on the Clooney VICTOR VON DOOM mini-series. I'm hoping Michelinie's Iron Man Armor Wars II is selling well, so they'll get him back to do the sequel to EMPEROR DOOM. I think it would be great for their new OGN series.

Plot wise, he said it takes place shortly afterwards and was about someone abused in EMPEROR DOOM who returns for revenge against Doom. I will see if can worm any more details out him tomorrow at his table, as I didn't get a chance to go by there today.

Michelinie also said he considered Doom as Iron Man's arch nemesis -- that they shared a lot in common.

[Iron Maiden]

You need to post that!

Here's the Game of Thrones / Doom piece
I am pretty sure I saw this on tumblr but don't know the source

[XPac]

I was thinking about this recently and since I'm a huge Panther fan I'll field this one. Panther clearly has no love for Doom because of Doomwar, however T'challa allowed Doom to leave with his life and without arrest following that story. So I guess Marvel is considering that resolved. If he can work with Namor who he believes betrayed him to Doom, and then flooded his home killing thousands, he should be able to work with Doom easily.

No way he considers him an ally or trusts him, but he can definitely work with him out of necessity.

I wouldn't say he'd be able to work with Doom easily... but I'm sure he will be able to do it.

Theoretically, I am assuming he's angrier with Namor than he was at Doom since he's stating he's going to kill Namor. Like you mentioned, he let off Doom comparatively easily. Not saying he won't have issues with Doom of course... but if he's willing to work with Namor then Doom should be just as believable. In theory.

The rest of course likely might disagree. Except Namor.

Reed should be interesting, since him and Doom were on the same team recently. So he's obviously willing to work with Doom if the universe is at stake.

[Iron Maiden]

That anti-travel poster is awesome! Though I think I'd have gone with something a bit more subtle, text wise, than 'DO NOT visit Latveria.' Maybe, "Visit beautiful and scenic Latveria. Littering punishable by death."


On the DAVID MICHELINIE front ....

I was horrified to learn that not so long ago, Marvel greenlit a sequel to EMPEROR DOOM, and he turned in a plot, but through what sounds like editorial ... waffling (I'm being kind), the project fell to the wayside! This was in the panel and I didn't get a chance to get more info, but I will try to do so tomorrow. However, if you see any editors at a con, be sure to ask about this sequel and it's fate. We've got to let them know that we WANT to see it. Ditto on the Clooney VICTOR VON DOOM mini-series. I'm hoping Michelinie's Iron Man Armor Wars II is selling well, so they'll get him back to do the sequel to EMPEROR DOOM. I think it would be great for their new OGN series.

Plot wise, he said it takes place shortly afterwards and was about someone abused in EMPEROR DOOM who returns for revenge against Doom. I will see if can worm any more details out him tomorrow at his table, as I didn't get a chance to go by there today.

Michelinie also said he considered Doom as Iron Man's arch nemesis -- that they shared a lot in common.

Good grief....yet another dropped Doom project. I think I may pop over to Tom B.s Formspring about this one day...LOL Not that it would accomplish much.
So lets see we have of the cancelled or dropped Doom stores

• The Victor von Doom mini series by Becky Cloonan and Nick Spencer (with a most completed scripts and covers done)
• Brubaker's plans to follow up on the dangling plot from his Captain America where the Red Skull gave him info found in an archeological dig in Germany that gave evidence of a possible ancestor of Doom's
• Follow up on the Doom/Namor alliance from the conclusion of the "Revolution" mini
• Hickman's abbreviated story with what he did with the Infinity Gauntlet Valeria told him about.
• Now this Emperor Doom sequel

I could only come up with a couple of questions, if you see this in time:

Doom came up with some surprising initiatives in Emperor Doom, like abolishing apartheid, redistributing resources to help eliminate want and hunger, etc. What would be some of his goals if the story were done today?

Recent stories showed Doom and Morgan (or is it Morgana? I always forget) Le Fey follow up on their physical attraction to each other and know we know they had a child. Would you have done the same? Or would Marvel have nixed it back then.

[Ood Omega]

Sean Thornton.

http://seanwthornton.deviantart.com/gallery/

That doom piece was shown in a recent exhibition i believe
http://411posters.com/2013/05/hero-c...-arch-nemesis/

Thanks. He did a great job on this piece too.