Yes, it's my favorite
It's great, but there are a few other runs I like more
It's ok, but nowhere near the best
I don't like Bendis' Avengers.
While taste is subjective, people can still be objective while expressing their opinions. Rational and logical arguements can prevail, even when arguing about something that logic fails to explain.
On the subject of this discussion here. Bendis Avengers works doesn't do it for me. Have read other things by him, most specifically the beggining of his USM run and parts of Daredevil. Neither characters are among my favorites, but i liked what I read. As such, don't consider Bendis a hack, nor do I consider him the greatest thing since the invention of sliced bread. He actually falls below the radar for me as a writer. My biggest beef with him is that he is writing my favorite team in a way that I find awful. That's it. No effect of the tides for me.
Writers that I absolutely adore: Ostrander (although, I could never force myself to read his Grimjack, just not my cup of tea, and I don't like the Spectre, só I never read great part of his run - even though, what little I have, was spectacular). PAD (didn't like his Supergirl). Stern (can't remember anything of him that I didn't like, but I'm sure there is something).
On the other hand:
Dislike: Englehart (his dialogue, and most of his concepts, kills anything for me, but was able to read and enjoy his Avengers and WCA run.), Gerad Jones (IMHO a terrible writer, however, I liked his Elongated Man mini-series - although Parobecks art may have a hand at that, and his JLE with Giffen was pretty good), Winnick (too prechy and heavy handed in his writing. Always goes for the shock value. However, although not my favorite writer of the series, enjoyed some of his early Exiles).
See, it is possible to find things you don't like on the work of someone you like, as well as things you like in the work of professionals you don't apppreciate.
PS: Sorry for butting in.
Exactly. Bendis writes Stark as the stereotypical, obnoxious douche bag playboy, but who has a heart of gold. When really, Stark has developed beyond that in his own series. He's much more humble and down to earth now. He's still got that charming arrogance about him, but nothing like he used to.
Bendis just ignores all that.
Oi! Nomad, you're not strath'... :P
But then I'm not sure why he sought out Gillen's other works, when he disliked him on Generation Hope, however...?
( I will have to agree that this is probably Gillen's weakest book. JiM is excellent in comparison.)
All right... I forgive you. ;)PS: Sorry for butting in.
I think I shall make a new thread, nominations for new Avengers-writer, and then make a poll of it. But then the question comes down to criteria, and the criteria IMHO, is of course that the new writer should be of equal star-status to Bendis, as well as similar sales, or at the very least close to it.
But then people will contest this... and then it'll go nowhere.
Maybe i should rephrase then. No writer should show favouritism towards a certain character whilst writing a team book.
But even then, I don't like blatant favouritism in any form. Team book or solo book. If it's obvious you are intentionally "bigging a character up" it shows a lack of creativity, in that the writer can't make the character worthwhile without resorting to hammering the fact that a certain character is awesome into the reader. It takes me out of the story.
Last edited by Lord Bravery; 04-18-2011 at 10:13 AM.
I thought you were talking about Giant Sized X-men or possibly the New Fantastic Four.I'm talking about Avengers Disassembled? Nah, that's from a series of articles talking about the evolution of the Justice League
"if you ever disagree it means that you are wrong."
"Oh hey Matt! You're my friend and all, but i don't like the development you've given Stark. I mean, Tony Stark, grow as a character? GTFO! I'm gonna ignore what you did with the character!"
Either way, I'll bet money the classic version of Stark (which Bendis and pretty much everyone else uses) is the one that will stick around.
But if you need an in-story explanation... Stark is acting like his old self around others, because that's how he's always acted around them. In his private moments, you can say he's just not feeling like his old self because of what's been happening to him.
But sooner or later he'll get over it, explaining why he'll likely go back to being the same Stark we've had for decades.