Marvel League 2009 Game D: Avenger08 vs. Slumber Hulk

[mattbib]

Greetings, fight fans! Welcome to our second match of the day!

And now on to our fight...

Week 2: Subterranea

Avenger08's X FEAR GODS
Emma Frost (2), Phobos, Skaar (3), Quake

vs.

Slumber Hulk's LAUGH RIOT
Loki (4), Deadpool, Spider-Man, Slapstick

Both participants have submitted strategies:

Please do not post or vote until both strategies have been posted and read.

[mattbib]

Upon being teleported to the battlefield of Subterranea and viewing their opponent, the team reacts immediately and simultaneously.
Quake uses her vibrational abilities on Slapstick first, creating dual vibrations, one in the glove of his left hand which is responsible for holding his form together, and the other centered in his head, with enough intensity to blow apart the molecules that make him up, and making it impossible for him to reform his body. While she does this, Skaar taps the Old Power and causes the rock hanging from the celing to crack and drop off into the magma below, and, at the same time, case the rock sticking from out of the magma to sink beneath it, so there is no way for Deadpool to cross the divide without aid.

Simultaneously, Phobos, with his Olympian god fear powers, faces off with Loki. Knowing it is impossible for loki to control his mind, and being able to anticipate Loki's moves, Phobos reacts instantly, being aware of his opponent's unmatched abilities in magic, using his power of thought to activate his ability of fear over Loki, looking into his black soul and turning all of the fear Loki has ever caused in others and using it tenfold against him, nearly blinding his thoughts with terror. Phobos manipulates any fear Loki has, and blasts it full force against him. He then intensifies all of the terror that he is using against Loki to the extent that he loses any logical thinking that he could possibly be capable of. This will, for the time being, make it near-impossible for Loki to use his abilities against my team.
Phobos will continue an intense focus upon loki, using all of his fear powers against him (or her) to ensure that Loki will have no chance to mentally escape, even for a moment, and all of his powers will be innefective.

Emma Frost, at the identical moment, takes the advantage of mental surprise to take control of Spider-Man's mind. Knowing that it will take several moments to web across the divide to physically attack my team, controls him instantly. With Spider-Man acting on her orders, she uses him to attack Deadpool suddenly. This will be used as a distractor, making it difficult for Deadpool to pose any threat to my team as he is preocupied with defending himself from Spider-man. This will be to distract both of them momentarily, and, being aware that Wade is immune to her telepathic abilities, to disable him indirectly.

Wade will also be effectively useless against my team, with any member of his team that could have transfered him across the lava pit currently occupied.

Throughout this time, each member of my team will be effectively protecting one another against all attacks that may come at them, Emma momentarily reverting to her diamond form in the instance of an attack coming at her from any side, as well as Skaar, who, for the time being, is open, protecting himself and others with all of his abilities, and Quake, also free for the time, specifically protecting Phobos, who is vital to disabling Loki.

With all of the members of the opposition innefective against the X-Fear Gods for the time being, and, after she is finished with Slapstick (after only a few moments), Quake and Skaar totally open to operate without distraction, they operate at once, together, to bring down all members of Laugh Riot team.
Quake will use her vibrational powers to cause Loki and Deadpools hearts to vibrate apart. This, like she did to Wolverine, will cause their hearts to explode, easily slowing Wade (who, like wolverine, would heal), and nearly, if not totally, killing Loki.
Skaar, accessing his Old Power, causes the magma between them to rise up, over the ledge of his opponent's platform, and flows over Loki, who is still in the mental terror entrapment from Phobos, or is dead from Quake's attack. Loki, who is not invoulnerable, will burn horribly, destroying his body as Phobos destroys his mind. Skaar, who is ruthless against his enemies (especially when they are the evil likes of Loki), will, unlike other members of his team, be willing to do such a thing. He will, at the same time, tap into the earth and rock, and manipulate it around the cavernous area of his opponents. First, Emma, still in control of Spider-Man, will force him to the small exit to the space, where he will force himself to the top of the tunnel space (while still within the boundaries of the area), and Skaar will seal the hole, trapping Spider-Man within and making it impossible for him to escape. This also protects him from the harm that Skaar will now inflict upon the rest of Spidey's team.
Skaar will fill the entire cavern of his opponent with the magma, instead of simply over Loki.
He will flood the entire chamber with it, save for his and his teammates area of the battleground. This will burn away all of Deadpool, as well as washing away the dismantled molecules of Slapstick, and buring away Loki completely. Knowing Deadpool and Slapstick cannot die, no semi-heroic opponents will be killed. Loki will face his death at the hands of fire, and the destruction of his mind.

Down: Deadpool, Slapstick, Loki

Finally, Emma, sensing Spider-Man's brain, and still in control of it, will use her powers to force him into unconciousness, and then sedate him.

Down: Spider-Man

[mattbib]

Round 1: Razzle Dazzle
Loki: Immediately begins casting a powerful Asguardian spell to prevent telepathic and fear-based manipulation of himself. Simultaneously he goes intangible and sinks into the rocky floor where he begins to move about randomly. Loki is a God himself, an older stronger god, so Phobos shouldn’t be a problem.
Deadpool: Charges the other team, aiming for anyone not hiding behind Skaar. Mainly Frost hoping to force her to go diamond form or paint the cave walls with her gray matter. “Charge! Don’t worry guys, I’m sure Loki didn’t ditch us… he has a plan right?” (The voices in his head are doubtful.)
Spidey: Can travel very quickly as he can swing and pull himself and Slapstick across the room. His primary target is Phobos, webbing, punching and mocking him, preparing himself for his worst fears.
Slapstick: Points at Skaar, “You belong to me you big baby!” He drops off Spidey’s back for a full frontal assault against the green meanie.

Recap: Loki, setting up something devious. Emma in diamond form or dead by GSW. Phobos being taunted by Spider-man. Skaar either KO’d by Slapstick or easily knocking him across the room, one or the other. Quake wondering why she’s been left alone.

Round 2: The Noose Tightens

Loki: Now from inside the floors/walls of the caverns Loki is blasting closed all the exits, sealing both teams in a confined space. He is still is keeping up telepathic/fear based shield up. Meanwhile he begins feeding more and more power to Quake. Loki has both created and increased the powers of others before, now he plans to give Quake a (temporary) boost off the Richter Scale. Now Loki laughs intangibly within the walls.


Spidey: Probably afraid for his life, chased by his worst nightmares Gwen Stacey is back as the new Green Goblin.
Slapstick: A multicolored stain underneath Skaar.
Deadpool: Dancing like a puppet at the whims of Mrs. Frost and loving every minute of it.

Recap: Quake now a ticking time bomb of power. Loki rubbing hands maniacally. Loki’s teammates in a bad way… sadly they were just a distraction.

Round 3: The Trap is sprung.
Quake, probably the weakest member of her team, can’t contain her new powers and accidentally sets of a Richter scale 13 earthquake causing a complete collapse of the section of caves they are in and around. Tons upon tons of rocks fall down. At the pivotal moment Loki grabs Spidey and makes him intangible as well. Slapstick and Deadpool can survive being squished… probably. Loki is willing to risk it… besides it’ll be funny to see them wedged between huge bolders.

Quake: Squashed into marmalade that looks suspiciously like Angelina Jolie would look like if she were turned into marmalade.
Emma: In diamond form unable to move or strawberry jam.
Phobos: Squished into fearful jelly.
Skaar: Extremely angry… about to be green goo.

Denouement: At his leisure, Loki can finish off any stragglers. He’ll create an illusion for Emma that she has been ported to safety by her X-Team mates. When she releases her diamond form… squish. Then he’ll flood the area around Skaar with fire. This will burn up any air and set Skaar ablaze. He can heal but he’ll need air eventually. If this gets boring he’ll get inside his head and create an illusion of his mother’s resurrection until he transforms into his boy form… squish.
(Oh and he’ll collect his squished comrades too.)

[Global Honored]

now THAT'S a scan Slumber

[Shyft]

first thoughts.

Not sure i like Loki casting a "powerful asgardian spell that stops fear and telepathic manipulation". That smacks a little of a "Loki casts an I-Win spell" to me. I know he is a multi-pointer, but i prefer spells previously seen in books, or at least not just made up to specifically make the character invulnerable to 2 opposing members of the team.

[Avenger08]

first thoughts.

Not sure i like Loki casting a "powerful asgardian spell that stops fear and telepathic manipulation". That smacks a little of a "Loki casts an I-Win spell" to me. I know he is a multi-pointer, but i prefer spells previously seen in books, or at least not just made up to specifically make the character invulnerable to 2 opposing members of the team.

Yea, I don't really think he can do that.
Hes not just a "Okay, so now, Im going to make you and you completely useless against me because I can do anything" casting person.
Seems rediculous.
Has it ever been shown that he is capable of negating the powers of Olympian gods against himself. Sure, he could probably protect his mind from the likes of Emma Frost, a mere mutant, but can he REALLY cast spells that block him from the powers of the god of fear.

[Avenger08]

Also, there is nothing done about Quake for a long period of time, time in which she has disabled Slapstick entirely, making everything he does useless.

Plus, Slumber Hulk, it has Deadpool suddenly on the other side of a giant magma pit. How? There is no indication as to how he could get across the room

[Avenger08]

Dancing like a puppet at the whims of Mrs. Frost and loving every minute of it.

Actually, isnt he immune to her mind control?

Then he’ll flood the area around Skaar with fire. This will burn up any air and set Skaar ablaze. He can heal but he’ll need air eventually. If this gets boring he’ll get inside his head and create an illusion of his mother’s resurrection until he transforms into his boy form… squish.

Skaar was BORN in fire, Is he not totally immune (or nearly that), but also, has it been shown that he needs air. Because the Hulk, his DAD didn't require it, why would he? Hes not human.

[ChaZ X]

Both pretty decent strats.

On the Quake to Slapstick attack, usually I'd say that's a little specific and characters don't know all weaknesses of opponents especially if they haven't faced them before...But...Quake was trained by Nick Fury and she was probably made to read detailed profiles on pretty muche very superpowered opponent possible, so I guess for her it's okay...ish.

On the Loki, No Fear or TP spell...ehh It's probably possible he could do it, but yeah it's kind of a cheap tactic. Regardless, there is the possibility Loki could Resist Phobos' Fear Effect anyways himself at least for a bit. And if the Fear doesn't fully stop him right away, I'd say the Quake Power-Up could happen, as he's been shown to do that move before, heck he did it to Iceman if I remember correctly. And since that pretty much makes any other strats with or against his "teammates" (pawns) kind of moot, I have to give Ol' SLumber the win in my opinion.

Sorry Avenger Awesome strat I just think his would work better. It's a mean evil, underhanded strat...but really It's Loki, what do you expect?

[Avenger08]

On the Loki, No Fear or TP spell...ehh It's probably possible he could do it, but yeah it's kind of a cheap tactic. Regardless, there is the possibility Loki could Resist Phobos' Fear Effect anyways himself at least for a bit. And if the Fear doesn't fully stop him right away, I'd say the Quake Power-Up could happen, as he's been shown to do that move before, heck he did it to Iceman if I remember correctly. And since that pretty much makes any other strats with or against his "teammates" (pawns) kind of moot, I have to give Ol' SLumber the win in my opinion.

BUT his strat assumes that she would lose total control.
As you said before, She was trained by nick fury. So dont you think she would have amazing control of her abilities? Plus, she is not vital past the point that she disables Slapstick, she just kinda enforces the point.

[ChaZ X]

Aw dang okay I'm glad I didn't vote yet. More to think about.

Yes I'm pretty sure Skaar is immune to both fire and suffocation.

Emma Frost would not likely fall to an illusion easily.

Couldn't Skaar USe the Old power or just his Strength to dig himself out.

Quake and Phobos Very well may be squished... unless Phobos is an immortal god...hmmm

Crap crap crap crap overall I thought The Loki Quake Powerup did it but upon greater inspection it is a little tougher then I thought, as the finish off is not quite what it needs to be. I'm holding my vote to consider more

[ChaZ X]

BUT his strat assumes that she would lose total control.
As you said before, She was trained by nick fury. So dont you think she would have amazing control of her abilities? Plus, she is not vital past the point that she disables Slapstick, she just kinda enforces the point.

while I do think he underestimates Her, I do think if quakes powers were amped up to the point where she had to release them some how she wouyld be a huge danger in that environment. She'd probably be able to fight it off longer then if she wasn't trained by Fury but it's kind of inevitable. There's pretty much no where there where she could release a massive vibrational blast and not bring the house down. If it was open air or even over water she'd be better off. But Underground? sorry man.

STill undecided though as Both Skaar and Emma for sure could survive the Cave In I think

[Global Honored]

This one's tough too.

I do like the Loki-Quake move. That is a killer tactic there.

If not for that move I would really be in Avenger08's corner here. It's tough to call. Shyft...what do you think here?

[Avenger08]

This one's tough too.

I do like the Loki-Quake move. That is a killer tactic there.

If not for that move I would really be in Avenger08's corner here. It's tough to call. Shyft...what do you think here?

Well, consider, even if that move took Quake down, that does not make my strategy mute as a whole. Her only designated purpose was to take down Slapstick, nothing more. She'd have already taken down Slapstick by the time loki would have done that to her powers. Everything else she's involved in is simply to aid in her fellow teammates moves.
Also:

Skaar, who, for the time being, is open, protecting himself and others with all of his abilities

See, I have a counter for this move in my strategy.
If the rock and stone were to be collapsing, Skaar, in an attempt to protect his teammates, would use his old power to stop the cave's collapse. His control outweighs Quake's. Plus he could then use his body as a shield for all of my players in the case of any other debrise

[Avenger08]

while I do think he underestimates Her, I do think if quakes powers were amped up to the point where she had to release them some how she wouyld be a huge danger in that environment. She'd probably be able to fight it off longer then if she wasn't trained by Fury but it's kind of inevitable. There's pretty much no where there where she could release a massive vibrational blast and not bring the house down. If it was open air or even over water she'd be better off. But Underground? sorry man.

STill undecided though as Both Skaar and Emma for sure could survive the Cave In I think

Okay, I can deal with the idea that after Quake disables Slapstick, she is overloaded with power and causes a cave-in, BUT, as i said, Skaar would stop it, and then cause a cave in on the other side