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    Quote Originally Posted by Excelsior View Post
    And to vilify T'challa for Cancer drugs is insulting.

    BP died for his sins and was resurrected.

    Just like jean.
    I'd prefer he died and be resurrected as Kasper Cole. Now that's a BP I could get behind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talisman View Post
    Who needs a constitution when you have a backwards cult and panther god selected leaders?
    I bet you can't even google "democracy" from a Wakandan IP.

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    Don't forget his harem of teenage girls, who are only allowed to speak to him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Prodigy55 View Post
    Don't forget his harem of teenage girls, who are only allowed to speak to him.

    He was just going through his Elvis phase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Excelsior View Post
    He was just going through his Elvis phase.
    With the probable inbreeding of the Wakandan people from being so isolated, it's more likely he's going through his Jerry Lee Lewis phase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talisman View Post
    I'd prefer he died and be resurrected as Kasper Cole. Now that's a BP I could get behind.
    As big of a fan as I am of Kasper you do realize that the character is FAR from a saint right?

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    Does Wakanda even have a Parliament?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasper Cole View Post
    As big of a fan as I am of Kasper you do realize that the character is FAR from a saint right?
    I do, but I find him to be more interesting than T'Challa. And being pretty much a blank slate, there's so much you could do with him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quillero View Post
    Does Wakanda even have a Parliament?
    They have a tribal council. It should also be noted that there's a difference between being King/Queen of Wakanda and being Cheiftain of the Panther cult. Nearly anyone can become Black Panther if they pass the trials.

    Quote Originally Posted by Talisman View Post
    I do, but I find him to be more interesting than T'Challa. And being pretty much a blank slate, there's so much you could do with him.
    He's really not a blank slate though. Priest REALLY fleshed Kasper out as a character and as of right now he's got some huge unresolved issues in regards to his war/connections with the 66 bridges gang.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasper Cole View Post
    They have a tribal council. It should also be noted that there's a difference between being King/Queen of Wakanda and being Cheiftain of the Panther cult. Nearly anyone can become Black Panther if they pass the trials.
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    Interesting. Is it more like a consulting body or does it have legislative powers?. (I really wanna know)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasper Cole View Post
    He's really not a blank slate though. Priest REALLY fleshed Kasper out as a character and as of right now he's got some huge unresolved issues in regards to his war/connections with the 66 bridges gang.
    That may be all well and true, but it's not like he's got 40 years of back history bogging him down. His unresolved issues could be fleshed out and resolved within one storyline. He's more flawed as a character, not so dues ex, and that's what ultimately draws me to him than T'Challa.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quillero View Post
    Does Wakanda even have a Parliament?
    Well yeah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by quillero View Post
    Interesting. Is it more like a consulting body or does it have legislative powers?. (I really wanna know)
    I'm not sure where it stands now but before they were basically a consulting body for the most part but during Priest's run T'Challa had actually given them a large degree of power.

    Quote Originally Posted by Talisman View Post
    That may be all well and true, but it's not like he's got 40 years of back history bogging him down. His unresolved issues could be fleshed out and resolved within one storyline. He's more flawed as a character, not so dues ex, and that's what ultimately draws me to him than T'Challa.
    Well Kasper was created to be a dark version of Peter Parker/Spider-Man, so of course he's going to have more flaws than T'Challa. T'Challa does have his flaws though, he has the same level of Hubris that Stark does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kasper Cole View Post
    Well Kasper was created to be a dark version of Peter Parker/Spider-Man, so of course he's going to have more flaws than T'Challa. T'Challa does have his flaws though, he has the same level of Hubris that Stark does.
    And...??? I don't understand why this is considered a bad thing, or an all-together original thing. I do appreciate how it was original as most black characters at that point are often given 2 personalities, the early Cage/Rage persona or the Black Goliath non-personality persona. PP has been the model for several other characters, some good, some not so much. T'Challa has the hubris but not the chutzpah to follow through and often comes through as being bland, cold and calculating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Talisman View Post
    And...??? I don't understand why this is considered a bad thing, or an all-together original thing. I do appreciate how it was original as most black characters at that point are often given 2 personalities, the early Cage/Rage persona or the Black Goliath non-personality persona. PP has been the model for several other characters, some good, some not so much. T'Challa has the hubris but not the chutzpah to follow through and often comes through as being bland, cold and calculating.
    I didn't say it was a bad thing I was just stating a the fact that Priest created the character to be a dark version of Peter Parker.

    I don't agree, the chutzpah was defenitly ampted up during Hudlin's run and could also be seen during Priest's run whenever he dealt with anyone not a part of his inner circle and also during parts of Busiek's and Johns' Avengers runs.

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