Black Widow Appreciation

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Also great article on Whedon "saving the super heroine" http://litreactor.com/columns/can-jo...e-superheroine

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Epting's BW...

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HOLY CRAP! That's amazing.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GE1Uc7rvXtg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPWqC71Kmdc
I love Natalia's accent!

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Steve Epting's "Winter Soldier" #9 cover. Image was too large too display apparently. Who's the dude?

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One of the Winter Soldiers, maybe?

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One of the Winter Soldiers, maybe?

Another old Black Widow's lover, maybe?

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Another old Black Widow's lover, maybe?

I don't think that's necessarily Natasha.

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Also great article on Whedon "saving the super heroine" http://litreactor.com/columns/can-jo...e-superheroine

It's a good article, but I am kind of struck how we're lavishing praise on Whedon for doing a good job, but pop culture blames Halle Berry for Catwoman, not the writers/directors of that film, and people that didn't like Black Widow in IM2 blamed Scarlett Johansson. I think here it's a case of Whedon being a rare writer/director dude whose name has pop culture nerd currency— if we had the same script, but Penn wrote it, and someone else directed, maybe Johansson would get more credit? But it still strikes me, I guess, as mildly uncomfortable that in all the feminsm discussion we're paying more attention to the man behind the character, and not the woman. Ruffalo is getting credit for the Hulk (even though that character is half CGI), RDJ gets credit for Tony Stark, but Whedon gets credit for Natasha.

Another old Black Widow's lover, maybe?

God, I hope not. That plotline is such a cliche with her, and the timeline's a mess as it is. I dooooo think there's probably some degree of fakeout in these covers, I don't think Brubaker is really breaking up Bucky and Natasha. (But it might seem that way for an arc.)

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It's a good article, but I am kind of struck how we're lavishing praise on Whedon for doing a good job, but pop culture blames Halle Berry for Catwoman, not the writers/directors of that film, and people that didn't like Black Widow in IM2 blamed Scarlett Johansson. I think here it's a case of Whedon being a rare writer/director dude whose name has pop culture nerd currency— if we had the same script, but Penn wrote it, and someone else directed, maybe Johansson would get more credit? But it still strikes me, I guess, as mildly uncomfortable that in all the feminsm discussion we're paying more attention to the man behind the character, and not the woman. Ruffalo is getting credit for the Hulk (even though that character is half CGI), RDJ gets credit for Tony Stark, but Whedon gets credit for Natasha.

Quoted for truth.

On topic- Even thought i would like a solo BW movie, I'm just not sure what they would do for it.

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Ian Grey writes about critical reaction to Black Widow in the AVENGERS movie - GREY MATTERS: Black Widow Spins Webs Around THE AVENGERS.

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On topic- Even thought i would like a solo BW movie, I'm just not sure what they would do for it.

Johansson says she would like MCU Bourne. I think if I were doing it, I'd adapt the Red Guardian saga. Natasha has been sent by Fury to stop this mysterious terrorist, we see the present day action interspersed with flashbacks to her origin, how she was in love with Alexi and then he died, and that caused her to throw herself into espionage, until she decided to join SHIELD, blah blah blah, at the end the mysterious villain is Alexi and his death was faked because they knew that was the only way to ensure her loyalty.

But there are other plots you could borrow from. The Yelena Belova story would work pretty well, too. The espionage genre translates pretty well to film.