Until what point are we expected to tollerate this? It's literally at the point where I feel uncomfortable talking about her on these boards, because this nutbar will pop up and insist that she have a 'special friendship' with Spider-man.
In any topic. At any time. If Nat comes up we're subjected to this.
Granted, the example that I exploded over here is full tame. It's kind of a case of 'straw that broke the camel'.
Sorry if I offended you, Mutie. But Darth here needs to sod off.
Freedom is merely the ability to live without fear of persecution.
I had suspected since they started teasing her involvement in Age of Ultron that they might be gearing up for a new BW project. I like how she's been presented in the AU stuff so far, lonely and grim and spooky, which is a nice departure from boobs boobs boobs a la Secret Avengers rn. I agree with everyone who thinks they've really dropped the ball with Natasha post Avengers movie, but things are picking up a bit. The CA&BW arc had art I loved and some nice character moments, her appearance in Punisher: War Zone was fantastic, and the next arc of Avengers Assembled will be Natasha-centric, plus they are (seemingly) giving her a strong role in the upcoming Event. And then we might be getting a new Natasha-centric book! Better late than never.
Re: this new mystery book, a while back someone asked Fraction on his tumblr if he had ever considered doing a book in the same style as Hawkeye but with another character, like Black Widow? He responded with: funny you should ask. Something for this thread to speculate about, maybe! He could've easily just been making an Iron Fist joke, but I know actually that Fraction thinks they missed the boat by not handing out Black Widow comics after the Avengers movie, too.
The only connection between Black Widow x Spider-Man mirrors that of Spider-Man x Black Cat. First of all, Natasha got her inspiration to become a costume crime fighter the moment Spider-Man made his debut. Second, she probably used Hawkeye to help her defect from the KGB/Soviet Union because she wanted to personally observe Spider-Man. Whose to say that some of Spidey's early adventures against a few super villains wasn't the result of Natasha being responsible indirectly by paying off a few mercenaries to battle him? When she decided to redesign her costume into the iconic one, Spider-Man was her inspiration towards it. In ASM #86, Natasha battled Spidey because she wanted to see for herself how strong he was.
I would have thought that from that decisive battle, they could have formed a partnership as she did with Daredevil. A partnership between the Black Widow and Spider-Man is long overdue, in my opinion. Just as I felt that the Black Cat should be a part of Daredevil's world, the same should apply to the Black Widow being a part of the Spider-Family as Julia Carpenter has.
My interest in Spider-Man and Black Widow has absolutely nothing to do with their Spider-Theme costume. It's their personality that holds my interest. I never understood why no other Spider-Man writer in the past ever used Natasha in Spider-Man in contrast to Daredevil as his partner on occasion. I do believe that if Black Widow was a part of Spider-Man's world, a working relationship could develop in the same manner as Carol Danvers and Jessica Drew. And in time, Natasha and Peter Parker could form a friendship that is as close as those that she has with Daredevil, Hawkeye, and Captain America.
Last edited by Darthfury78; 02-03-2013 at 01:07 AM.
Aja's said that Natasha is his favorite Marvel lady before.
IA, Darthfury78, I don't really like having this thread be constantly drawn off-topic w/mentions of Spider-man.
It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't the ONLY topic he seems interested in.
Is BW Still gonna guest in WS?
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ever since it was "established" that natasha had her own version of the super-soldier serum and was really Cap's age, has it ever been hinted that she's ever borne children?
Last edited by klynn; 02-03-2013 at 12:28 PM.
Favorite Characters: Natasha Romanova, Caron Danvers, Dinah Lance, Kitty Pryde, Kate Bishop
Favorite Books: Black Widow, Lazarus, Velvet, Captain Marvel, Red Sonja, Rat Queens
The Name of the Rose deals with this though before she joined the KGB.