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    Quote Originally Posted by Libaax View Post
    Are you saying you dont want Black Widow series as spy comic ? Or you dont want it to be cold war era like Winter Soldier ?

    Other than Brubaker who is great at spy stories Greg Rucka is my dream Black Widow writer. He could write her like he did Queen & Country which were awesome series.

    Frankly i wont mind top level writers like those doing even in a mini right now. Give a story from her Point of view a mini doesnt matter.
    No, any Black Widow story is going to be a spy book by default. But I would take care in choosing artists, so that it looked visually distinct, maybe something more stylized and less realistic? I liked Acuņa on her book, a lot, for example! Or Chris Samnee, or McKelvie, or Stuart Immonen… really, there are a lot of artists that I think would work. And yeah, I would also probably emphasize the present over the past, play up her connections with the MU more. Natasha's very tied to the Avengers at the moment, and she has a really rich history in lots of corners of the MU, while Winter Soldier is all about hiding and keeping secret. Things like that. Don't get me wrong, a Brubaker/Guice Black Widow book could rock and I would buy it— I just don't think it's the smartest direction to take her in when there's already a Brubaker/Guice Cold War spy ongoing that she plays a significant role in. It's important for every book to have their own voice/identity, like Brubaker's doing much less espionage stuff with the main Captain America title now that Winter Soldier is out.

    Rucka would still probably be my first choice for a Black Widow book. Q&C was great, and he's done a lot of stellar superhero stuff at DC, too, he likes the character and it's very much in his wheelhouse. I also think Greg Rucka is a name that really appeals to the section of the fanbase that wants to read books about women, he's probably second only to Gail Simone in that regard.

    And yeah, I think if they are skeptical about an ongoing, just doing a miniseries is a nice way to capitalize on the movie hype without much commitment and also a way to remind readers she does have a POV. I would be very happy to see a 616 continuity miniseries, especially if someone like Rucka wrote it. Unfortunately they seem to be cutting down on minis across the board, limiting them to event stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrist View Post
    But I would take care in choosing artists, so that it looked visually distinct, maybe something more stylized and less realistic?
    How about Parlov or Timm?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hrist View Post
    No, any Black Widow story is going to be a spy book by default. But I would take care in choosing artists, so that it looked visually distinct, maybe something more stylized and less realistic? I liked Acuņa on her book, a lot, for example! Or Chris Samnee, or McKelvie, or Stuart Immonen… really, there are a lot of artists that I think would work. And yeah, I would also probably emphasize the present over the past, play up her connections with the MU more. Natasha's very tied to the Avengers at the moment, and she has a really rich history in lots of corners of the MU, while Winter Soldier is all about hiding and keeping secret. Things like that. Don't get me wrong, a Brubaker/Guice Black Widow book could rock and I would buy it— I just don't think it's the smartest direction to take her in when there's already a Brubaker/Guice Cold War spy ongoing that she plays a significant role in. It's important for every book to have their own voice/identity, like Brubaker's doing much less espionage stuff with the main Captain America title now that Winter Soldier is out.

    Rucka would still probably be my first choice for a Black Widow book. Q&C was great, and he's done a lot of stellar superhero stuff at DC, too, he likes the character and it's very much in his wheelhouse. I also think Greg Rucka is a name that really appeals to the section of the fanbase that wants to read books about women, he's probably second only to Gail Simone in that regard.

    And yeah, I think if they are skeptical about an ongoing, just doing a miniseries is a nice way to capitalize on the movie hype without much commitment and also a way to remind readers she does have a POV. I would be very happy to see a 616 continuity miniseries, especially if someone like Rucka wrote it. Unfortunately they seem to be cutting down on minis across the board, limiting them to event stuff.
    I see what you mean then. If would be smart to have a different look, different artist type for her own mini and not look like Winter Soldier series look wise.

    Yeah its a big shame they are cutting down on minies than are not event stories. We can only hope they listen to creators who want to write a story of hers.
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    Best part of Black Widow Strikes...
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    Almost 100 pages...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rogerio View Post
    Here comes a funny fight between Silver Sable and Black Widow by Rob Liefeld ()


    I would definitely like to see both girls working together someday...
    This was the first and only team-up story of the Black Widow and Silver Sable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tangentman View Post
    Agreed on the Black Widow as drawn by Heck, Jones, Perez, Colan, Cho--and I liked Frank Miller's initial take on the Widow in the late 70's to early 80's. Steve Leiloha drew a powerful Natasha in Marvel Team-Up issues #82-85. Of course, he's proven himself an exceptional touch with "Spider-Women" in general!

    If you haven't read the MTU arc, it's one of the best Black Widow stories EVER! Spider-Man patrols a snow-blanketed NYC late one night and notices a beautiful redhead being jumped by would-be muggers/rapists. Spidey comes to the rescue--and finds himself needing a rescue when the mysterious woman foils an attempted back-stabbing with accomplished martial arts maneuvers. The woman, claiming to be schoolteacher "Nancy Rushman", faints and Peter finds himself drawn into a mystery when he believes the woman is actually the Black Widow!

    Soon, S.H.I.E.L.D. agents show up trying to kill "Nancy", and Spider-Man becomes involved in a conspiracy master-minded by none other than Viper & the Silver Samurai! Extra guest stars include Nick Fury & Shang-Chi. It's a strong story--action-packed, beautiful art, on-point characterization, and a smart story. Better yet, the story provides a compelling insight into what it means to be the Black Widow; the danger, the obligations, the loneliness. Chris Claremont wrote the 4-parter and really nailed Natasha's personality, quirks, and worldview. Back issues should be reasonable or you can save money by purchasing the ESSENTIAL MTU.

    I also support the recommendation of the BW hardcover. Well-told stories with sweet art and good Natasha moments. Personally, I've always liked Natasha solo or as guest-star better than tied down in the Avengers. She shines best in the espionage genre or team-ups with solo street-levelers (Daredevil, Spider-Man). As a long-time Spider-Woman (Drew) fan, I'm certainly in no hurry to see her series fail--but I don't see the situation as an "either/or" case. Let's get ALL Marvel's Spider-Woman in regular ongoings!
    The one thing that would be cool to see is for The Black Widow to establish a real friendship with Spider-Man as well as become his crime fighting partner on occasion. It would be very tough for Natasha to ignore Spider-Man after witnessing his true persona for the very first time. I would assume that she has been very surprised by his actions and resourcefulness so far. Perhaps she'll finally come to understand why Silver Sable chose him instead of Captain America to battle Dr. Ock and the Sinister Six.

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    You should see her Psylocke.

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    Go Widow go! Really pleased she had some great moments in Avengers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Iron Fist View Post
    Go Widow go! Really pleased she had some great moments in Avengers.
    She deserves a solo movie!
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    Quote Originally Posted by yanapryde View Post
    According to folks in the Avengers Academy threads spoilers:
    there has been a holding facility constructed on the moon??
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    Perhaps this reveals why Magik and Widow are in THIS location....seemingly, also on the moon? Perhaps Magik was part of an extraction plan that Widow interferes with...?


    great art work

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    Black Widow definitely rocks with Joss Whedon's help.
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