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    For the first 250 issues of The Avengers, the Vision was far and away the most interesting character. Marvel and all Avengers writers since then (except Harras and Busiek, although both wrote Wanda out of character as her fierce defensiveness concerning her family never would have allowed her to give up on the Vision when he was in his state of disrepair) should hang their heads in shame.

    His introduction in #57 as a pawn of Ultron who, like his unknown brother Simon and his future love Wanda, turns his back on evil to find acceptance so that we learn in #58 that even an android can cry was the best story arc in Avengers history. It is to the Avengers what The Coming of Galactus is to the FF.

    Other highlights include GS#4 (the wedding), #93 (Pym's journey inside), Vision and SW #4 (falling over when Wanda tells Vis that she is pregnant), and a host of others.

    The "robotic" Vision is boring and I am not surprised that he was shunted off into nowhere. What is surprising is that Marvel decided to kill him rather than repair him.

    Hopefully Children's Crusade will restore him to the world. After all, Thomas and William both draw their names from his side of the family (Thomas from Phineas Thomas Horton and William from Simon Williams).

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    The Vision is easily in my top 5 Marvel characters of all time. It's a shame that he's been out of action for years now although I was thrilled to see him in Dead Avengers.

    I know the Vision 2.0 has his fans but I'm not one of them.

    The earlier scans of Vision taking on, and ultimately defeating, Hyperion show just how much of a force he can be. His prolonged absence is really a shame but I've given up home of a return under the current Bendis-era. It doesn't appear that he's a fan of the character.

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    The Silver Age pre-emo Vision--though the art and the story-telling and the art and the characters were classick--sucked harder than my mom's sister Jennifer. (Summertime family reunions can get weird). He started out with Sentry-level power but his B-version Zak Quinto "Even Big John Can Cry After Getting a cornball Roy Thomas thingy" couldn't save this boring rip on Spock. Or Quinto (Quinto? Quinjet? I don't think this was an accident.

    I was happy when the Big John era included the best bringdown of that stupid robot: Some Avengers fought some bunch of powered beans and one of them melted the asphalt--Vision Hammond Williams couldn't get hard or flaccid because en route to either he would DIE BY ASPHALT.

    And Teen Viz? The Patriot's oddball band of Tommy-Billy-Simon-Ben-Ringo-Marvl-Fred-Red-Ed-ManNamemaJed? Adolescent Kang could, in theory developed by Einstein, be a borderline interesting character if a) Einstein was a fraction as smart as he thought he was and b) I forgot what B was for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Osmium View Post
    The Silver Age pre-emo Vision--though the art and the story-telling and the art and the characters were classick--sucked harder than my mom's sister Jennifer. (Summertime family reunions can get weird). He started out with Sentry-level power but his B-version Zak Quinto "Even Big John Can Cry After Getting a cornball Roy Thomas thingy" couldn't save this boring rip on Spock. Or Quinto (Quinto? Quinjet? I don't think this was an accident.

    I was happy when the Big John era included the best bringdown of that stupid robot: Some Avengers fought some bunch of powered beans and one of them melted the asphalt--Vision Hammond Williams couldn't get hard or flaccid because en route to either he would DIE BY ASPHALT.

    And Teen Viz? The Patriot's oddball band of Tommy-Billy-Simon-Ben-Ringo-Marvl-Fred-Red-Ed-ManNamemaJed? Adolescent Kang could, in theory developed by Einstein, be a borderline interesting character if a) Einstein was a fraction as smart as he thought he was and b) I forgot what B was for.
    Good for you.

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    what's the deal.. is this the "original" vision with the simon williams brain patterns.. how much of Vision's "original" memories exist? What happened to the Young Avengers android, "vision 2.0"?

    and why the original costume without an update?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hypestyle View Post
    what's the deal.. is this the "original" vision with the simon williams brain patterns.. how much of Vision's "original" memories exist? What happened to the Young Avengers android, "vision 2.0"?

    and why the original costume without an update?
    To answer your first question, yes this seems to be the original Vision with Simon's brain patterns, second question, not sure ask the the people that read Bendis's Avengers. Young Avengers Vision's fate is unknown at this time due to Children's Crusade's delay. As to the original costume over an update, simple the original is still awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerkaya View Post


    I remember reading that issue oh so many years ago and thinking, "this dude is awesome!"

    It used to really tick me off when some writers wouldn't use the full extent of the Visions abilities. This guy is uber powerful was a badass powerset. And to prove that, he was one of the four Avengers left standing along with Thor, Simon and Iron Man, to face Michael/Korvac after he had just mopped the floor with the rst of the team.
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    With Vision back and Bendis leaving the Avengers franchise, should Vision take up his old career as a detective again or a new profession?

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    My only hope is that Bendis doesn't kill him off again before he leaves the book.

    I'd love to see what Parker could do with him if he were to write an Avengers story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerkaya View Post
    With Vision back and Bendis leaving the Avengers franchise, should Vision take up his old career as a detective again or a new profession?
    maybe he could be an Avenger.

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    I like the Vision. But I really don't want him and Wanda getting back together. That has been done and both characters were always more interesting to me apart or as friends. The romance was fun for a while but seriously I think Vision was more interesting when he interacts and meets other people, particularly regular non powered civilians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by the Hornet View Post
    I like the Vision. But I really don't want him and Wanda getting back together. That has been done and both characters were always more interesting to me apart or as friends. The romance was fun for a while but seriously I think Vision was more interesting when he interacts and meets other people, particularly regular non powered civilians.
    yeah, I wouldn't need to see Vision and Wanda back together either. They seemed to have moved on... and frankly so have I.

    I'd rather see what happens between Wanda and Doom at this point.

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    How powerful has he been shown for Superhuman Strength?

    For JLA is he suppose to be the answer to Red Tornado, or Martian Manhunter?

    Seems like the Opposite of Ultron.

    While Ultron was created to be good he still became evil, Vision created by the monstrosity Ultron he was reprogrammed.

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