Very Interesting!

[carabas]

very true. she just *was* wonder woman.

I grudgingly have to agree. If only she could have had a proper costume and real scripts to work with.

[brettc1]

I agree, but you can't tell that to some people. They feel that a campy show from '70s should be a starting point. It would be like making the modern Batman films using the campy '60s TV show as a starting point. And I'm sure there are some who would have preferred that route, right here on CBR. The "Batman voice" upsets them EVER so much.

I can only assume that folks who talk about the Lynda Carter show as campy think the same thing of the original Battlestar Galactica.

The original BSG was not camp, it was just the product of a different time. Same with the 70's WW. The first season was sometimes played tongue in cheek, but it was nowhere near the level of the Adam West Batman.

[JC77]

Is this really the Gail Simone that started this thread?

[aegisbearer]

Is this really the Gail Simone that started this thread?

Yes, she did. She helped bring this forum into existence.

[nightforce]

I can only assume that folks who talk about the Lynda Carter shoe as campy think the same thing of the original Battlestar Galactica.

The original BSG was not camp, it was just the product of a different time. Same with the 70's WW. The first season was sometimes played tongue in cheek, but it was nowhere near the level of the Adam West Batman.

OMG thank you Brett for saying this. I am not sure how some people can compare the 60's Batman to the Wonder Woman series.

Loved this post

[nightforce]

No Hollywood movie would ever get off the ground using the campy 70's movie as the template, or WW in star-spangled panties. It wouldn't happen, and would never get green-lit. They would never invest millions of dollars in something that modern audiences would laugh off screen. Just wouldn't happen. And I laugh at the comic-book geek mentality that thinks this is a realistic possibility. And people wonder why DC doesn't pay attention to rantings of its fan base! I would ignore the fans too! Including myself, but I assume I'm ignored and don't care, I just come here for $#&%# and giggles ;-P

This is part of the reason for the reboot, to appeal to a larger fan base, and if they alienate the hard-core loyalists, so be it, they are a small number of 30 + year olds anyway and if they try to hold on to those folks with out appealing to the younger generation their business will die out. So, stuff like corny star-spangled panties and tangled decades old continuity that so-many die-hard mega-fans hold dear has to go out the window. And all the internet ranting and raving wont save it. It's money folks. Pure and simple. You want art? Write your own stuff, that YOU own.

Wow why so freaking condescending? What makes you the guy who knows everything?


Anyway


Really really silly thing for you to say to say the least. We NOW have a man, in green tights and a ring and a domino mask flying through the air. I mean how campy is that? Yet here we are with a movie of The Green Lantern.

You might want to watch how you say things.

PS Green Lantern is getting bad reviews.

[Stromberg5]

I can't believe the number of people who are even caring enough to discuss this...It doesn't matter who they cast, how good the script is, what the costume looks like, none of it...Because with half the Wonder Woman fans none of it will matter at all. All they will see is everything the powers-that-be AREN'T doing that they want them to do.

[nightforce]

Oh you mean like every other Fan of other Superheroes? Yeah I agree,

[dupersuper]

Oh you mean like every other Fan of other Superheroes? Yeah I agree,

I would disagree, but I have a copy of Superman 4 at home.

[brettc1]

And yet now I see over at Jinxworld GREEN LANTERN aint doing so well.

So does that make it more or less likely we will see a JLA or Wonder Woman movie...

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/green_lantern/

[Tiberious]

And yet now I see over at Jinxworld GREEN LANTERN aint doing so well.

So does that make it more or less likely we will see a JLA or Wonder Woman movie...

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/green_lantern/

We are never going to have a WW movie. Never.

[Tiberious]

DC's GL flop + Snyder's Superman flop + everyone's final acceptance that TDK would have sucked without Ledger will end DC superhero movies.

DC's relaunch fiasco gimmick is proof that they are on their last legs.

It's the beginning to the end.

[carabas]

Snyder's Superman flop

Surely it's a wee bit early to start pissing vinagre about that one?

everyone's final acceptance that TDK would have sucked without Ledger will end DC superhero movies.

Oh, totally. The Joker story would have completely stunk if it wouldn't have had the frelling Joker in it. Likewise, Thor would probably not have been very good without the guy playing Thor in it.

[Zagreus]

Wow why so freaking condescending? What makes you the guy who knows everything?


Anyway


Really really silly thing for you to say to say the least. We NOW have a man, in green tights and a ring and a domino mask flying through the air. I mean how campy is that? Yet here we are with a movie of The Green Lantern.

You might want to watch how you say things.

PS Green Lantern is getting bad reviews.

Fair enough- as far as the condescending tone. I'll try and take it down a notch. When I look at WW movie prospects, I put myself in the head of the executive, and couldn't imagine green-lighting the old-school 1970's WW, or even WW in her classic costume. In pants, sure, I could see her getting a movie. Sure, do I KNOW this, not really, and I'm just spewing, but I doubt it.

Now, GL is a different deal. He's built up a significant fan base over the past five years or so, has multiple books under his banner, has an easy to sell story line (super hero plus space opera) so I can see why that was green lit and millions were spent. How the movie actually does, who knows, but as far as the "okay, let's get this movie made" process, I can see why GL was given the nod.

If all of a sudden, WW family books are headling a couple of titles, and they're selling like hotcakes, with people loving the USA iconography of stars and stripes, I'm happy to eat my crow. And I'm sure if that were the case, hollywood would be happy to join the bandwagon and invest some millions into a WW movie with her in the classic outfit. However, that's not the case right now.

I can see the new outfit being much more appealing to a Hollywood exec, and to other folks as it gets rid of some of the camp, and divests her of the US symbolism which makes her an easier sell overseas.

And yes, company driven stories can be art, of course, and I love comics, but folks probably shouldn't worry too much about the continuity. It's always consumer driven, dollars and cents, and they have to appeal to a younger fan base who doesn't care what Perez wrote in the 80's (for example).

[Chiroptera]

DC's GL flop + Snyder's Superman flop + everyone's final acceptance that TDK would have sucked without Ledger will end DC superhero movies.

DC's relaunch fiasco gimmick is proof that they are on their last legs.

It's the beginning to the end.

Oh lawdy, don't do that SoD! You've been a sane and rational forum goer, don't turn into one of those "these are the end times!" posters!

GL actually isn't a flop, it's received a bad reception with critics but it has had a strong opening weekend. Heck, even Superman Returns wasn't a critical failure; and TDK, regardless of who did or did not carry the film, made Warner and DC a literal mountain of money.

This is far from the beginning of the end. The final Nolan Batman movie will almost certainly be the end of super hero movies that actually get Oscar nods but it's far, far from the end of super hero films as a genre, or super heroes themselves.