Doctor Strange Appreciation

**Greg Anderson** · 12-03-2012, 07:15 PM

Originally Posted by Hypestyle

what happened in the New Avengers finale?

If you're a fan of the Brothers Voodoo, no need to bother.

**Frank** · 12-03-2012, 07:26 PM

Originally Posted by PlanetaryDevastation

So Hickman is answering questions in the Avengers thread and Rheged asks the question I was planning to.

Rheged: It's been 16 years since Dr. Strange has even had a chance at an ongoing, and one of the reasons fans has been given is that no one seems able to come up with a 'workable' magic system. Is this even an issue in New Avengers?

Hickman: No one asks about the magic system in Lord of the Rings. I think that's Dungeon and Dragons junk and it's ruined a lot of magic stuff because people feel like there have to be rules. Pfft

I love this reply.

I don't know, I think magic having rules would make it more interesting. Cause then when things would be explained clearly, when an incantation from Strange would not work, it would become more suspensful. Let for instance, "Strange has to be in contact with three people to progect some kind of psychic energy but when a villain attack, he thought his three friends were there so he start his ritual but then realise that one of them is missing and it screws up the formula, almost killing the two others in the process". I would like to read about this type of stuff.

If magic is just a bunch of light shows, it's boring.

**Greg Anderson** · 12-03-2012, 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by Frank

I don't know, I think magic having rules would make it more interesting. Cause then when things would be explained clearly, when an incantation from Strange would not work, it would become more suspensful. Let for instance, "Strange has to be in contact with three people to progect some kind of psychic energy but when a villain attack, he thought his three friends were there so he start his ritual but then realise that one of them is missing and it screws up the formula, almost killing the two others in the process". I would like to read about this type of stuff.

If magic is just a bunch of light shows, it's boring.

I can sorta agree with this.

**mdg1** · 12-04-2012, 09:24 AM

WTF?

Marvel U Magic never had rules?

Marvel has had rules for magic since the original Official Marvel Handbook To The Marvel Universe, THIRTY YEARS AGO.

And they published a one-shot with a working framework (adapted from the above) 5 years ago, called MARVEL TAROT.

The problem isn't that magic doesn't have rules... it's that writers and editors don't follow them. They pick and choose, adding abilities and limitations willy-nilly (remember "Magic cannot duplicate what science has created"?), whether it makes sense or not.

**Dr. Jeremiah** · 12-04-2012, 08:15 PM

So I figured I'd ask here, where the Doc fans seem to know their stuff. I have decided to start collecting Doctor Strange. At first, it was a bit of an impulse buy, but the character is really growing on me. I have purchased The Oath, and the most current Defenders story. However, I'm at a bit of a loss for where to go next. Is the Doctor Strange: Sorcerer Supreme book worth a read? What about Flight of Bones? I hear that Strange is up to some pretty cool shenanigans in the New Avengers, so what about that? Can you help a fledging fan of the Sorcerer Supreme, the Master of the Mystic Arts?

**Zen-aku** · 12-04-2012, 08:23 PM

Originally Posted by Dr. Jeremiah

So I figured I'd ask here, where the Doc fans seem to know their stuff. I have decided to start collecting Doctor Strange. At first, it was a bit of an impulse buy, but the character is really growing on me. I have purchased The Oath, and the most current Defenders story. However, I'm at a bit of a loss for where to go next. Is the Doctor Strange: Sorcerer Supreme book worth a read? What about Flight of Bones? I hear that Strange is up to some pretty cool shenanigans in the New Avengers, so what about that? Can you help a fledging fan of the Sorcerer Supreme, the Master of the Mystic Arts?

New avengers [the first and last arc of vol.2 specificaly]
The Strange miniseries
And The Season One graphic novel are all great for strange

**Global Honored** · 12-04-2012, 08:25 PM

Dr. strange: The Oath is good, and relevant.

**Rheged** · 12-04-2012, 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by Dr. Jeremiah

So I figured I'd ask here, where the Doc fans seem to know their stuff. I have decided to start collecting Doctor Strange. At first, it was a bit of an impulse buy, but the character is really growing on me. I have purchased The Oath, and the most current Defenders story. However, I'm at a bit of a loss for where to go next. Is the Doctor Strange: Sorcerer Supreme book worth a read? What about Flight of Bones? I hear that Strange is up to some pretty cool shenanigans in the New Avengers, so what about that? Can you help a fledging fan of the Sorcerer Supreme, the Master of the Mystic Arts?

By the Hoary Hosts of Hoggoth STAY AWAY from the Bendis New Avengers!!! It's like gazing on the face of the Cthullu! You'll pluck your eyeballs out and rip your hair from your scalp! Wait until January and jump on New Avengers #1 by Hickman,if you'd like an Avengers book with Strange.

**Frank** · 12-05-2012, 01:17 AM

I wonder what happened to the blue and yellow outfit from his last mini-series.

This was from Season One. I loved that mostly blue outfit. It put emphasis on the super-hero aspect. I think there's two places Doc Strange should go: all super-hero fun or something similar to the MK Tony Harris version where it's Stephen in a suit and involved in darker things.

**Dr. Jeremiah** · 12-05-2012, 04:45 AM

So I see some conflicting opinions on the Avengers. Any reason for this dissent? Also, I was wondering about Doctor Strange: Sorcerer Supreme. It seems like a decently long run, so I think it would be cool to read something totally focused on Doc, unless it sucks.

**Rheged** · 12-05-2012, 08:09 AM

Originally Posted by Dr. Jeremiah

So I see some conflicting opinions on the Avengers. Any reason for this dissent? Also, I was wondering about Doctor Strange: Sorcerer Supreme. It seems like a decently long run, so I think it would be cool to read something totally focused on Doc, unless it sucks.

I don't like most of Bendis work, but beyond that, he basically depowered Strange for no good reason, and finally "fixed" it, in less than great fashion. His Strange is pretty cardboard, IMO, and completely misses the point of the character.

I liked it, what I remember of Sorcerer Supreme, but I'm a bit old school. I like Roy Thomas' run with Gene Colan from Strange Tales, as well as Frank Brunner's run that he started in Marvel Premiere. Joe Arco is doing a read of the entire series, a From the Beginning discussion thread, on this board, so it would be cool to read along, if you like. I'm trying to find my copies to do just that! LOL!

I haven't read Fever, but I heard it was trippy and Ditkoesque. While Flight of Bones is supposed to be more horror tinged, I think.

**Dr. Jeremiah** · 12-05-2012, 12:48 PM

Flight of Bones sounds right up my alley. How is the art on Sorcerer Supreme? Is it at all similar to The Oath? (which I really like)

In fact, what would you more experienced folks say is close to The Oath? Art wise, and story wise?

**Rheged** · 12-05-2012, 01:54 PM

I'm sure there will be some other more knowledgeable folks coming along shortly. But the Oath had Marcos Martin art, IIRC, and I don't recall any Strange books with that sort of art. Triumph And Torment has early Mignola art, though.

The art on Sorcerer Supreme was fairly standard, IIRC. Here's the review thread you might want to check out.

http://forums.comicbookresources.com...-the-Beginning

**Dr. Jeremiah** · 12-05-2012, 02:04 PM

I took a look through that thread, and I much appreciate it. Seems like a good series to pick up, even if the art is just a wee bit dated. I think I'll pick it up, and take out a subscription to the January New Avengers. Between these two, Defenders 2011, and Flight of Bones, I should have my Strange fix for a while.

**Joe Acro** · 12-05-2012, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by Dr. Jeremiah

I hear that Strange is up to some pretty cool shenanigans in the New Avengers, so what about that?

The most recent arc, overall, was fine. They'll likely collect it shortly. Worth a look, if only to see how he regains his title.

I also suggest Mark Waid's Strange mini from a couple years ago. There is a loose end, but it's a fun story nonetheless.

Originally Posted by Rheged

I haven't read Fever, but I heard it was trippy and Ditkoesque.

It is trippy! And Ditko-esque in terms of art. It's a bizarre story. Also, it's really more of a Spider-Man story. Still, a fun time.

Originally Posted by Dr. Jeremiah

I took a look through that thread, and I much appreciate it. Seems like a good series to pick up, even if the art is just a wee bit dated.

Once you've read a few issues, feel free to chime into the thread and read along!