Springing out of the Jim Aparo thread which actually came from another thread let's take a moment to appreciate another Batman artist of the Bronze age: Irv Novick. While not as stylized as Adams and Aparo were, Irv was pretty important in defining the image of the Bronze era Batman and unlike Jim he was actually part of one of Batman's most defining runs in the O'Neil/Adams era. It should actually be O'Neil/Adams/Novick (not to mention Dick Giordano) when people speak of redefining Batman in the early 70's. Not to mention Irv drew the book before and after Neal Adams and into the 80's. I know a lot of people like the Frank Miller idea of a muscle bound Batman, but I prefer how Irv (and Neal and Jim) always drew Batman as long and lean with a mile long cape. One of my most memorable Novick stories was the culmination of what was actually the failure of Batman and Catwoman's relationship which resulted in her crying in his arms (after trying to kill him of course) where he apologized for hurting her. Yeah, I miss a sane Batman who was in touch with his feelings.