Quicksilver vs. Namor - who's the bigger jerk?

**FlintEastwood** · 07-03-2009, 10:31 AM

I was reading some back issues of X-Factor as well as some more recent series (Herc, Agents of Atlas, Mighty Avengers). Between the appearances of both Namor and Quicksilver, it seems like whenever they're around they're absolutely the most pompous jerks in the room.

It probably seems that way because in fact, they are.

I'm not sure if this similarity has ever been explored. What I would like to see, in the same vein as Jack of Fables on the DC side of comics, is a mini featuring Namor and Quicksilver trying to out-asshole each other, teetering on heroics and villiany, and only doing acts of each as an accident.

It would make sense, no? When it gets down to the two characters, they are both driven by selfishness as opposed to a real desire to do good or evil. I see the height of hubris in each of them, and a jingoistic appreciation for their own noble kind that borders on racism.

Of course, there are plenty of other straight up JERKS in the Marvel Universe. We have Hank Pym. Tony Stark. Norman Osborn. They don't even compare, because they have an agenda that involves someone other than themselves.

In an ultimate fight between the jerks, who is going to come out victorious?

**daveageallen** · 07-03-2009, 11:17 AM

is this namor week? like pym week last month?

or did one person just spark 10 namor submariner related threads

**CrimsonComedian** · 07-03-2009, 11:28 AM

Namor is not a jerk.

**Shellhead** · 07-03-2009, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by CrimsonComedian

Namor is not a jerk.

Yeah, it's just random and coincidental that he is always losing his temper and trying to sleep with Sue Richards. All those attacks on New York City? Simple misunderstandings. Teaming up with Doctor Doom on multiple occasions? Hey, anybody could make that mistake!

**daveageallen** · 07-03-2009, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by CrimsonComedian

Namor is not a jerk.

namor is sweet. but yeah he is a jerk. throwing iron man out of a window during the immuninati because they disagreed? attacking people who dont bow to him or show over ammounts of respect.
he killed people , a lot of people before becoming a hero (kinda ) now..

**Shellhead** · 07-03-2009, 11:44 AM

I voted Quicksilver, because he stole Johnny Storm's girlfriend, even before Crystal became the town bicycle of Attilan. Pietro also didn't invite his own sister to his wedding, because he didn't like her dating an android. So he is kind of racist and also a hypocrite. Even back in the days of Cap's Kookie Quartet, it was kind of disturbing how he kept challenging Cap's authority as leader.

**LungerTony** · 07-03-2009, 01:27 PM

Quicksilver racist because he disapproves of his sister dating a robot?

I would disapprove if my sister dated a robot. I most definitely would. Racist against robots, or the fictional idea of functioning robots? LOL.

Namor is totally the bigger jerk. Quicksilver atleast has reached humility before. Namor rivals Doom with his arrogance.
Seriously, like half the appearances we see Namor these days, he seems to be threatening pr engaging atleast one of his alleged allies with violence.

**Sighphi** · 07-03-2009, 01:40 PM

Quick, Namor is royalty and that's how they normally act.

**Omega Alpha** · 07-03-2009, 01:51 PM

Namor, because he makes the point of his life in being a jerk, while Quicksilver just happens to be one somewhat unintentionally.

**marvell2100** · 07-03-2009, 01:56 PM

Namor is bi-polar. Therefore he is not a jerk. Quicksilver is manic-depressive so he isn't a jerk either. But damn if those butt wipes don't get on your nerves sometimes!

**mikekerr3** · 07-03-2009, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Shellhead

Yeah, it's just random and coincidental that he is always losing his temper and trying to sleep with Sue Richards. All those attacks on New York City? Simple misunderstandings. Teaming up with Doctor Doom on multiple occasions? Hey, anybody could make that mistake!

Actualy I agree with most of that but his original and a few other of the attacks on NYC have be justified in response to humans harming his people. The last team-up with Doom was in mutual self defense.

**Iron Maiden** · 07-03-2009, 08:20 PM

Namor has had some legitimate grievances with the "surface world" over the years. Polluting the oceans, exposing his subjects to a deadly nerve gas that put them all in a comatose state, etc. That's one reason why he sometimes turns to Doom even with all their differences. When Doom gave his word that he would cure the Atlanteans, something Reed had failed to do, he kept his end of the bargain. Of course, this was back when writers did credit Doom with having some degree of honor.

Namor wasn't always a tool... he did help Reed get over his depression and shell shock from being trapped in the past by Hyperstorm. In his early solo series, he was always the noble monarch.