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    Using his powers creatively and seeing how dangerous he can be is something that Gambit fans have not seen in a long time. And I'm so ready for it. Bring it on - Gage!

    I just want to see Gambit be shown more than wallpaper and a plot device which is all he's been in Legacy for awhile.

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    It's a little surprising Gage is the only one to try something different from the cards. Yes, they are his signature weapon, but he has a power thats extremely versatile. Even a punch from him could leave a charge on the enemy's clothing; with disasterous effects as Liu showed in his fight with Daken. A charged blade, for example, could cut even Colossus apart; a bullet becomes a missile; and charged staff blow should be devastating. Not to menmtion all the traps he can lay on the environment; an excellent weapon for a sneaky type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Canemacar View Post
    Not to mention all the traps he can lay on the environment; an excellent weapon for a sneaky type.
    I too am glad to see Gage talking about using Gambit in fights. We've all been saying that what the character really needs is to be use as a team member that's important to X-Men. Gambit's power is very versitle. He can control the speed of subatomic particles making things unstable, and touch with any part of his body and can time delay them. There is no reason why he can't reach out with a foot and charge something in a tight including just to make it "pop" out of existance. You are fighting with Gambit using a sword, he grabs it for a moment and "pop" its gone. Suddenly leaving the attacker to fight him hand to hand which Gambit is very good at. Not everything has to be blown up. I am so more interesting in seeing Gambit be smart, sneaky and charming in battle again than I am about him dating anyone. Gambit will be used by later writers because he's shown to be a fun character to write in battle and that's what he needs.

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    Can't wait to see this adventure

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    Wow. Thanks for pointing that out to me. I would have never found it. Well at least he doesn't seem to think Rogue is acting perfect like Carey though I wish he seemed to know more about the characters history than he does.

    It bothers me he's writing Gambit and doesn't know that Gambit's been brushed off and used by his family more than once when he had deep roots there and has pretty much been having to live with loosing and sacrificing for some time now. Heck, Gambit's family loving him but being willing to sacrifice him over and over is why Gambit is partially the way he is about not tieing himself down. He been burned over and over. Gambit being in the Massacre was all about him trying to not kill people with his powers and ending up doing so by keeping his promise to work for Sinister if he helped with his powers. It's high irony. That Gambit been willing to still stick his heart out with Storm, Rogue and X-23 shows Gambit's way way stronger than Rogue at the moment given just like with his family he never seems to hold their poor treatment of him against them and he's treating her way nicer than she deserves.

    If Gage thinks Rogue cares about Gambit then I'd like to see it because she's been a complete bitch to him so Carey could make Rogneto work without touching on Rogue and Magneto's history at all (another story it would behoove him to know). I just don't get how electrocuting Rogue and using her in the trial of Gambit while never fessing up to it can be ignored (and claimed to be discussed off panel) if you are going to try to make me believe Rogue is in a relationship with the jerk that did it to her. It makes Rogue look spineless and braindead.

    I don't like that he's telling me Rogue is stupid enough to think Magneto's "trying to be a better person" when there is no indication that except for Carey's pet writing of the guy any writer is having Magneto accept anything he did in the past was wrong. Heck Magneto has been Scott's pet assassin twice now with Wolverine and Legion and nary a word from Rogue who realistically seemed pretty pissed about it in the Wolverine book. Magneto is with the group because it makes sense with his agenda not because he thinks he was wrong and wants to be better. It the same reason Frenzy is with the X-Men and doesn't make either one of them trustworthy. Both are happy kid killers with no remorse. Frenzy is not trying to be better either, she wants to be accepted so she can feel the comradery of a group again not because she thinks she was wrong or believes in one thing about the X-Men. Rogue didn't accept that blindly with Mystique (rightfully so) and it makes no sense now.

    Hopefully some of this will work itself out and soon. I'm this close to dropping Legacy because of how much I can't stand Rogue anymore and that says alot since she used to be one of my favorite characters.

    I think what happened was that Carey so wanted to hurt Rogue fans on his way out , that he ended up throwing the baby out with the bath water, in that, sure - he gave Rogue fans the finger but he destroyed the character of Rogue to do it.

    As for Gage, that's a wait and see .........maybe he's better than Carey. The probability for that is good, given how low Carey set the bar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemmy View Post





    I think what happened was that Carey so wanted to hurt Rogue fans on his way out , that he ended up throwing the baby out with the bath water, in that, sure - he gave Rogue fans the finger but he destroyed the character of Rogue to do it.

    As for Gage, that's a wait and see .........maybe he's better than Carey. The probability for that is good, given how low Carey set the bar.

    Well i wonder in each of everyone ideals, who will Liu try to hook Gambit with. Maybe Warbird

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juggs View Post
    Well i wonder in each of everyone ideals, who will Liu try to hook Gambit with. Maybe Warbird
    First preferance is he play the field and date casually - it would interesting to see him out with Black Cat one night, Black Widow another, and a human the next - all spread over time, etc but if not I hope its Warbird. There is no one else on the Astonishing team that interests me as a fling for Gambit. At least she seems fun from what little we know and they can trade stories about how their roles in their families(military for her) got them where they are and each others customs, but it seems Warbird for some reason likes Iceman.

    I fear Liu will hook him up with CeCe who I like as a reluctant now and then character but bores me as a regular X-Man and that Gage will try to hook him up with anger managment issues Frenzy.

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    I don't mind who she hooks him up with, him and CeCe could be fun together, opposites attract and all that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red eyes View Post
    I don't mind who she hooks him up with, him and CeCe could be fun together, opposites attract and all that.
    I prefer she not hook him up with anyone really. I'd much rather she and Gage focus on re-establishing the character as a formidable guy to have around on your team, who's sneaky and creative and charming so other writers want to use him. Worrying about his romantic life is the last thing on my mind for the character. The only time Carey did Rogue any favors was in the beginning when he was re-establishing her as a team member and X-Man. THAT is what Gambit needs not the next in line romance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonshine View Post
    I prefer she not hook him up with anyone really. I'd much rather she and Gage focus on re-establishing the character as a formidable guy to have around on your team, who's sneaky and creative and charming so other writers want to use him. Worrying about his romantic life is the last thing on my mind for the character. The only time Carey did Rogue any favors was in the beginning when he was re-establishing her as a team member and X-Man. THAT is what Gambit needs not the next in line romance.
    I see what you mean, but Gambit already has writers wanting to write about him. And both of his current writers have already talked about involving him in some kind of romance, so it's inevitable really. Plus seeing what Liu has already done for Gambit he's going to continue to be "charasmatic, charming and a team player etc" so no worries there. The fact that Gambits on an X-Men team that dosen't contain Storm, Rogue, X-23 or Jubilee is a big step forward.
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    Quote Originally Posted by red eyes View Post
    Plus seeing what Liu has already done for Gambit he's going to continue to be "charasmatic, charming and a team player etc" so no worries there. The fact that Gambits on an X-Men team that dosen't contain Storm, Rogue, X-23 or Jubilee is a big step forward.
    I agree that not having old super supportive friends on the team hopefully should lead to new dynamics but I don't agree that Liu has done anything to make Gambit cunning and a team player. Anything Liu did where he didn't just stand around by default had to be ten times better than what Carey was doing with him.

    She returned him to being the mentor/nice guy protector of a young kid in need like his first two issues with kid Storm. Girls swoon, yes but that's not hard when she's the one writing them to swoon. He's been in one decent fight with Daken who's fun to fight with because you can blow him up and there is no need to be creative or cunning. And while Gillen and Gishler mentioned using him, there hasn't been any real out come of that. I'm not saying she won't develop Gambit more but I sure hope the focus is on that and not some desire to "fix" his romantic life. Rogue not being the focus already does that. We've seen him really try in a relationship and know he'll do most anything for those he cares about. Anything else romantic is hardly in my top twenty wishes for seeing Gambit used over the next year. Given this "year's" big storyline, I'd give an metaphysical arm to see him fight an Avenger and win. That's what I want to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonshine View Post
    while Gillen and Gishler mentioned using him, there hasn't been any real out come of that. I'm not saying she won't develop Gambit more but I sure hope the focus is on that and not some desire to "fix" his romantic life. Rogue not being the focus already does that. We've seen him really try in a relationship and know he'll do most anything for those he cares about. Anything else romantic is hardly in my top twenty wishes for seeing Gambit used over the next year. Given this "year's" big storyline, I'd give an metaphysical arm to see him fight an Avenger and win. That's what I want to see.
    In Gillen case it was more he had plans for Gambit, but they weren't strong enough to fight for him when having him on Wolverine side made more sense. I would have liked to see him and Magneto on the same team with no Rogue it would be so awkwardly funny seeing how they would interact with each other.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonshine View Post
    I agree that not having old super supportive friends on the team hopefully should lead to new dynamics but I don't agree that Liu has done anything to make Gambit cunning and a team player. Anything Liu did where he didn't just stand around by default had to be ten times better than what Carey was doing with him.

    She returned him to being the mentor/nice guy protector of a young kid in need like his first two issues with kid Storm. Girls swoon, yes but that's not hard when she's the one writing them to swoon. He's been in one decent fight with Daken who's fun to fight with because you can blow him up and there is no need to be creative or cunning. And while Gillen and Gishler mentioned using him, there hasn't been any real out come of that. I'm not saying she won't develop Gambit more but I sure hope the focus is on that and not some desire to "fix" his romantic life. Rogue not being the focus already does that. We've seen him really try in a relationship and know he'll do most anything for those he cares about. Anything else romantic is hardly in my top twenty wishes for seeing Gambit used over the next year. Given this "year's" big storyline, I'd give an metaphysical arm to see him fight an Avenger and win. That's what I want to see.
    I didn't put anything about him being cunning. Despite nothing coming out of Gillen wanting to use him, he was going to use him, the problem with Gambit now isn't that writers don't want to use him, quite a few do and have done so. I think it needs to be reitereated why Gambit is sticking with the X-Men, and be shown to be needed in a team etc, hopefully Gage and Liu do that. Regarding the team thing, we saw Gambit working well with X-23, Jubille and Woverine which can be considered a team.

    But yeah it would be nice to read a book that didn't go on about his love life. Lets not forget Liu only mentioned Gambit and CeCe "circling each other", that dosen't really mean anything serious, the same goes for Legacy.
    I doubt were going to see Gambit in AVS Vs except maybe a cameo, i'd love to see him vs Hawkeye or someone.
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    I don't know how I feel about it. On one hand, I wouldn't mind seeing Gambit in a great new romance but there's nobody really great around to match him up with. I think Warbird might be interesting though and Sage is still stuck in a wall. If Jean's coming back, that would be nice but she's kinda bogged down with Scott/LOgan history.

    If only 'Ro was single.....

    On the other hand, I would like to see him doing his thing on his own and being GAMBIT again.

    I don't hold out much hope that he'll be in AvX.

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